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  • I would ask you to quantitatively define how good you were on the first day vs the others with a life of training, but that's not the point I'm trying to make.

    Maybe what you are saying is more true for a a 3weeks stage race where is the length of the event itself which favours the genetically gifted (is it though? albeit in a different situation, look at Anna Kiesenhofer), but in other sports there are plenty of examples of people that "made it" without being born with extraordinary talent.

    The other side of the coin is that if you start telling people from day 1 that they will never achieve their dreams because of something they have no control over, then what's the point in even trying? Better spending your life on a couch, drinking beer and eating pizza

  • if you start telling people from day 1 that they will never achieve their dreams because of something they have no control over, then what's the point in even trying?

    Nah better to set realistic dreams. Take up cycling at 23 and are willing to train hard? Aim to get round a prem or a divs medal. The great thing about competitive (cycle) sport is that you don't have to be the best to get something out of it.

    in other sports there are plenty of examples of people that "made it" without being born with extraordinary talent

    Got any examples in endurance sports? (genuinely interested)

  • Nah better to set realistic dreams. Take up cycling at 23 and are willing to train hard? Aim to get round a prem or a divs medal. The great thing about competitive (cycle) sport is that you don't have to be the best to get something out of it.

    A 23 years old can understand his limitation quite well (hopefully). But what if you say that to a 10/12 years old? I think that you would fuck him up for life

    Got any examples in endurance sports? (genuinely interested)

    How well versed are you with rowing?
    A kiwi named Hamish Bond (even tried to transition to cycling) as a junior/u19 had mediocre physiological parameters. Flash forward 10/12 years and between 2009 and 2016 never lost a race (bagged two olympic golds in the process), solely by outworking everyone else.

    Still regarding rowing, I remember reading somewhere of an italian who as a 15 y.o. was told by his then coach that he didn't have nor the height or the wingspan to "make it"
    To this day he has a couple of world championships wins and two olympic bronze (iirc)

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