Pro-cycling thread

Omg she is going to need to shut up and lawyer up

I'm not normally one to pile-on in these situations, but she endangered others with that move and should be disqualified. A terrible, and terrifying, lapse of judgement.

“I’d come down and then I was working my way back through to the peloton, and I was just using all the speed of the convoy to get back,” she told CyclingTips. “I think I was coming in pretty fast. And then there was a crash in the peloton right as I came back. I sort of used all my speed to sort of also go into that one.

“I thought I was going to make it through. And then there was a rider right in front and, yeah, you’ve probably seen the replay.”

Any news on the apparently unconscious rider in the crash in the town caused by a rider losing control and swinging to her left? She was not moving in a quite awful looking way.

That'll be Laura Süßemilch, out with two fractured vertebrae I believe.

Nicole Frain

To let her continue to race would be disrespectful to all the other riders who did the decent thing and slowed down. For the sake of argument, if she had succeeded in her plan to just zip past the pile up she'd have gained time on the back of someone else's misfortune.

Good footage here btw:
https://www.tv2.no/v/1772478/

This reminds me of the time that I was held up behind a crash during a 3/4 crit at Darley Moor and someone rode over my mate’s hand in pursuit of BC points.

LOL, it's the Tour de France. They didn't slow down because it was the decent thing to, they slowed because they could see there was no way through.

I have some sympathy for Nicole; she was sitting on the wheel at 60+kph, head down and chewing the stem to get back to the bunch in the biggest race in the world. Next thing there are riders across the road and she sees a gap. 9 times out of 10, not braking is best thing to do, far too many crashes are caused by choppers shitting themselves and hauling on the brakes in the middle of a bunch.

Amanda Spratt, who was one of the victims of that crash yesterday, is a DNS this morning.

I disagree. You don’t go through a gap at 40 km/h plus when people are stationery in the road.

far too many crashes are caused by choppers shitting themselves and hauling on the brakes in the middle of a bunch.

Thing was, she wasn't in the middle of a bunch, she was effectively solo at the time as her team mate braked and dumped it into the grass rather than hit the pack. It wasn't malicious, but it was a bad choice.

Happens all the time though when the "race is on".

I'm not saying it was the right decision this time but to suggest a DQ is grossly unfair. The was a logic to her decision and there was nothing malicious or deliberately dangerous about it. So often the results of a crash are down to luck.

@atz at those speeds surrounded by motos cars and other riders she may as well have been in the bunch. Look at the somersaults of her teammate to see the results of that choice- she was damn lucky to have landed in a field.

^ this. She was dammed whatever she did given the speed differential. If she'd made it through a gap there'd be a sunglasses/spliff meme doing the rounds given how impressive that'd have looked.

unless u are blind or mad.

https://twitter.com/avvleuten/status/1551877165662232578?s=21&t=od0iRQSunuBFrGzg_5-rQA

She thought she was in a car, had a nap at wheel for a repeat of 2015?

Ouch. I missed all that carnage. Only saw the last crash within 15 to go. Hope they all recover ok.

I'm with blondey on this. People don't crash themselves out like that for no reason. There's no way she'd have flown into the downed riders if she was aware. Presume she's looked up last second and thought shit, ooh I can make that, nope. Down. Or she didn't look up at all. (Olympic TP anyone?)

Sorry didn't mean to directly reply to your comment but she was aware in this interview that there was a crash and sorta thought she'd make it through "A"gap.

https://www.eurosport.nl/wielrennen/tour-de-france-femmes/2022/tour-de-france-femmes-ik-dacht-een-gaatje-te-zien.-frain-over-aandeel-in-grote-valpartij_vid1721616/video.shtml

Anyone see a gap in the video here?

https://mobile.twitter.com/dukster777/status/1551571262715084800

So instead of saying I made a bad decision she puts a post on social media she didn't realise rider's were down and not her fault.

Never admit fault in an accident. That's rule #1

She can be aware of a crash and still not be aware of riders down in front of her. You don't just jam on the anchors every time you hear carbon hitting the road.

People seeing a crash in front and panicking or instantly slamming on the brakes can just cause another crash behind them.
IMO watching this video
https://twitter.com/dukster777/status/1551571262715084800
She was right behind someone who pulled left, they were going very quick, it looks like she slowed and tried to fit through a gap rather than going straight in to the back of someone else except that gap was actually another cyclist on the floor. I can believe she couldn't see it and probably couldn't even see the big group of cyclist slowing in front as she went behind the other person right as they started slowing. I'd put a lot more blame on the person in front of her who didn't slow down at all and tried to go round the whole group on the left.

Cavali was still on her bike when she went into her.

Fuck I just realised the Dutch riders have all three jerseys as well as the combatif number.

I don't think it's hyperbolic to say Cavalli could have died there. The slow-mo makes me feel quite sick.

@Hulsroy