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  • FUCK. OFF!

    Judging from the background, that's $200 AUD, about £14 last I checked. And fair enough, you're in the sticks, which hammers asking prices, but still, that's crazy. Dude would've paid most of that for the tyres.

    Look at this bike! RD and crankset look fucking mint. Get those levers working and that group would be worth at least $750. Then there's the deep carbon wheels, which you would be pretty damn stoked to land alone for $200.

    And the frameset! Giant's, and my, first carbon! I had the CFR1 back in the day, which was incredibly light given the ally lugs (I seem to remember 900g, but the ally fork with steel steerer was like 2/3 of that again... Is that a 55? Mine was a 57.) The full carbon frame was a bit of a noodle though... The CFR3 here has ally seat tube and stays, doesn't it? Might be better. The other cool thing about these frames was the see-through paint, and yours seems to have fared as well as that pristine groupset.

    I guess it could have been used a fair bit without becoming scuffed and scratched; the giveaway would be chainring wear and particularly wear on the nickel-plated ally FD cage.

    It is a bit of a puzzle... The CFR3 would've come out with 5400 on it, so someone has built this up at considerable expense... I hope there was a compelling story to convince you it wasn't stolen.

    Mine was.

  • Not sure if you're being serious...

    He bought a donor bike with a 7800 groupset and put that onto his Giant. :-)

  • Enthousiasm and a few beers were involved I guess. It is a more than nice bike though and 200 whatever currency is a fine deal for a 7800 donor bike.

  • Okay, that makes more sense...

    Still a crazy price for a 7800 bike, especially in that mint nick.

    Nearly ten years ago I paid AU$600 for such, in good condition, and it was a great price then. Last year I paid $1k for the same bike in excellent condition, and that was a pretty good price.

  • Got some light bicycle wheels delivered this weekend. Possibly a bit deep for the frame but I'm still pretty chuffed. Looking forward to getting a proper ride on them tomorrow.


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  • Love it - wheels look great.

    I’ve got the same chain set on mine. What bb did you use?

  • Thanks! I used a SRAM one, for my sins. It'll probably only be ridden in dry-ish weather though so hopefully I can get away with it for a while

    Edit to add they're gxp cranks so it's an Italian threaded bb.

  • I used a sram ita bb as well, for more than 15k km. The occasional wet ride, of course. Bearings were absolutely screwed and I did push them beyond what I should've. But fortunately, the only thing you ruin are the bearings and cups. Which are easily replaced if you mamage to get a hold of a new pare.
    @BondMax cbear also makes a gxp ita bb, but 💸

    Edit:forgot to mention, fabulous fondriest!!

  • That is very tidy indeed. Wheels good shout

  • Nah those wheels look spot on

  • Haha I think you now understand the situation. Still a great deal though.

    I bought the giant for $100 AUD with mostly original kit on it, I had the wheels sitting around so thought I'd spice it up a bit.

    I was a little curious why the donor bike with 7800 was so cheap but the lady had pictures of her racing it previously so it seemed fine and she just wanted rid of it. I missed out on getting a set of Spinergy 4 spoke wheels from her too which is a shame.

    I am in the sticks a bit (southwest Western Australia) so not a huge market for older bikes like this down here.

    In total this bike owes me $1225 AUD. Yep alloy rear stays and carbon main tubes. Pretty happy with how it rides too. Weighs bang on 9kg.

  • A quick query from an about to build an MGOOF person who is currently an MTBer.... (actually I won't be building it at all it will be given to a man who knows what to do).

    I have a Columbus Minimal 1 inch steerer fork, looking at getting a -17 degrees stem and bar combo, wanting the horizontal stem aesthetic and from what I read here -17 is the correct angle? And maybe this a dumb question but doesn't that mean in some cases that the stem logo may be upside down?

    I am looking at Zipp/ Deda stems, can someone tell me what 'spacer' I should be looking at to allow the 1+1/8th stem to clamp to the fork, and also what spacers to use to take up any vertical distance between headset and clamp?

  • 17 would normally be level with a horizontal top tube given ~73 degree head angle. You may find though that a 17 puts you a bit low, in which case a 6 degree stem looks fine too. Kalloy Uno stems off ebay are great value, come in a load of lengths and angles plus in black or silver. Label comes off easily with nail polish remover too - https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/254235272089?hash=item3b319a6399:g:GiYAAOSwlUhbl3r9

    you'll need a 1 inch to 1 1/8th inch stem shim - lots here https://www.sjscycles.co.uk/search/?term=stem%20shim

    In terms of spacers either use 1 inch up to shim or shim whole way and then use 1'1/8th for all. If you do use 1 inch spacers a nice slim stem works best (like the aforementioned Kalloy!).

  • -17 is the correct angle if the top tube of the frame is horizontal. Stem logo may end up being upside down depending on manufacture but -17 road stems are expected to be run as such. I'd acetone the logos anyway...

    Condor sell the shims for making a 1 1/8th stem work on a 1" steerer - the stack of spacers then go over this...

  • jupiz/ matty c thank you both very much. Looking forward to posting photos for a good slagging.

  • -17 is the correct angle if the top tube of the frame is horizontal

    Only if the headtube angle is 73 degrees
    (Which it probably is)

    ;)

  • check previous page - there's a good example of exactly what you might be aiming for

  • Spoiler alert. 1993 serotta frame on its way to my place...

  • No, a black frameset with gold decals.

  • Thanks. It's a bad photo and from another bike. Will post photos as soon as it arrives.

  • Hi from Canada! I think my bike qualifies.


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