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  • It did cross my mind that some of them might have got in to these places due to donations from rich family but looking at Raab's family history, I suspect he must have done it on merit alone.

    I wonder if this is evidence of one of the things I have read that troubles me most - the cleverer people are, the more they can be biased on things as they have the intelligence to find arguments to support their position. Hence these (academically intelligent) people being zealots….

    I think there might be some truth to this but in reality I just think that intelligence is a really complicated thing. There are loads of different types of intelligence and its rare for somebody to be well endowed with all of the different types. In Raab's case, i suspect we think he's dim because he's light on one or two of these.

  • There are loads of different types of intelligence

    I think that's both a simplistic description of things and difficult to prove, without some means of being able to read people's minds. We can observe and measure the ways people behave but we aren't currently capable of directly observing how they think. Safer to say that there are different areas in which people could potentially apply their intelligence and most people (for whatever reasons) only do so in a subset - some a broader or narrower range than others.

    The other thing about intelligence is that how you apply it is shaped by your life experiences.

    Yes. Also by your personality. One member of my immediate family has a reasonably high mental potential but has been (both by nature and by choice) thumpingly anti-intellectual all their life. Quite competent in a narrow range , functionally a moron in most other respects.

  • I think that's both a simplistic description of things and difficult to prove

    Fair enough. I know nothing about it other that teachers are taught that there are 8 or 9 different forms of intelligence (depending who's training you). No idea at all if it's contentious.or simplistic.

  • Quite competent in a narrow range , functionally a moron in most other respects.

    Why does this sentence remind me of Tim Martin?

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