Cargo Bikes

Get a winch and a long cable and pull the trailer up :)

For context i just cycled up on my bike and was doing 600w to get up the hill, standing up steep. So yeah it's 25% I think.

I like this proposal. You could get hold on on your bike ski lift style. Want to see a video of that (please wear a helment!)

I was trying to imagine how steep a 25% hill is.

The last big hill i remember climbing with a cargo bike (bosch CX gen2) was Anerley Hill, with about 130Kg of cargo (two small adults). Still can't really picture exactly how much steeper 25% is, but I think it's about double?? crazy. would struggle with an empty bike even hah.

Canonbie is only 15% !

Yes most people couldn't cycle up it. Even a fit person is out the saddle pushing on pedals. And I'm riding up on a MTB with MTB gears. I guess it's like catford or bec hull climb routes. But it's only 20m of that, but comes after 90deg corner so you can't get any steam into it.

I think it's pretty clear it's impossible.
Any pics?

You need a holiday in the lake district

You need a holiday

Amen

Just put the washing machine in.

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You would have had to ride up that bit where the guy is walking? That's steep!

Phase one of my planned upgrades on the babboe is complete, xtr 1x di2 groupset and new rear wheel - going from 7 spd to 11 and giving a much wider range of gears (19-32 to 11-42) should mean the flats are a bit faster and starting and hills are a bit easier, plus the loss of drag from the redundant motor in the rear wheel should mean a few more watts go towards forward progress!

Phase 2 will be a Dynamo front hub and better lights for the winter, need to do a bit more research to understand how they work first though!

Bike is doing about 6 trips per week at the moment, and hopefully the upgrades should tempt us into making a few more journeys we currently do in the car on the bike…

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needs pics!

Has pics now, pls excuse the state of my workbench…

Your workbench = normal human being; clear surface with full park tool kit neatly hanging up = the dark triad

Hard agree.

flats are a bit faster

Interested to know how that feels with the reverse trike. I totally discounted them as an option due to potential tipping in corners. But that was based off zero personal experience but could be totally wrong. Also discounted due to access width restrictions, but I like the idea of the stability when stopped or going very slow.

I'm sure you'd get used to it fairly quickly! I used to ride a cargo trike for work (not a reverse trike though). First hour or so was a bit sketchy but after that I just didn't have to think about it.

It’s fine, just needs care at the corners, I’ve not been close to tipping it yet, although my wife has - mainly through riding like a lunatic!

We got the three wheeler at her demand for stability on loading and at lights and it suits our purposes now with a 6.5k nursery run 3x per week.

Cars seem to be fine even with the relatively slow speed, the bars are nearly as wide as the box so I think they naturally account for that…

Cars seem to be fine

I get far less grief on the cargo bike than I ever had on any other bike. There are still cunts around, but something about the cargo bike confuses then, probably.

Although, I was once on my GSD behind @Chalfie's partner who was riding their Bullit in Crystal Palace and some bell chief in a Mercedes GLA (instant red flag) was furious that they couldn't IMMEDIATELY get past us. They said nothing to me (funnily enough as a 6'2", 110 kg cis white male) but told Chalfie's partner that they were being dangerous, before weaving off and blowing through the red light, in the wrong lane.

It's a lot of fun getting on 2 wheels with those Babboe trikes when it's not accidental.

told Charlie's partner that they were being dangerous

Seems it’s almost always the worst and most dangerous drivers that think cargo bikes carrying children (and prob cycling in general) is what’s dangerous, not themselves and the way they drive of course.

Yup, never trust anymore with spotless workbenchs and ALL tools accounted for hanging on the wall.
Although maybe steer clear of the ones where the floor is also a workbench and is at least shin deep in random rejected tools.

Was pretty impressed with the triobikes mostly. Watch out for the steering arm, they can crack at the welds, they seem to have one plane of movement/separation less than any other long john style bike with a metal steering arm, so any flex in the bike during use (every bike flexes to an extent) = the steering arm is being flexed against its will in a way I don't think they designed it for hence the failures I've seen.

R+M Load or packster, 60cm or 80cm, Bullitt (is 70cm so in between those sizes), Douze, Urban Arrow family, raleigh stride (babboe and all the other ones that are the same bike), Cube? Triobike also now a valid choice to be fair.

2 + 5 will fit all of those. In 3 years time though your 5 + 8 year old are going to have a lot more leg, by that time a long tail might suit them better, or just get a tag bike and have the older kid ride their own (tethered or un-tethered depending on situation). The upper tier Shimano/Brose/Bosch motors will all happily shift that kind of weight. One 500wh battery will be enough, I wouldn't really bother paying the extra for a 2 battery setup unless you get an ex demo/used deal on one, just buy the extra battery after a few months if you feel you actually need it.