• Becuase on many lovely bikes the aesthetic weak point is the 44mm headtube - 1 1/8 steerer transition (that gunnar for example). I think tapered headtubes look really great so wondered why someone like Standert, which cost a few quid, don't use them

    If the mitring is difficult that would explain an increase in manufacturing labour cost i assume, so not just penny pinching

  • That Gunnar up the got it wrong but it is the excess head tube above the top tube I don't like. A sloping top tube would have sorted it.

    An organic tapered head tube is really nasty looking imo. A straight ID44 headtube looks great with EC44 (external cup) headset and internal top bit.

    If down tube and top tube are larger diameter tubing i think straight head tube looks way better than anything else. Especially if bulky carbon forks are used and frame is of a larger size

  • An organic tapered head tube is really nasty looking imo. A straight ID44 headtube looks great with EC44 (external cup) headset and internal top bit.

    Yes, has to be a nice smooth taper with external cups, not the lumpy ones with internal cups. The flush dust cover on the gunnar is also not helping things, nor that whisky fork that looks offset, and certainly not all 44mm headtubes are as awful as that.

    and I am really thinking of road/ gravel bikes where the tubes are quite slim

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