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Having been gaslit by sensible society for 4 or so years, yeah, it’s pretty shitty that the obvious gets printed by a QC and suddenly the superior types are “well, yes both sides of course”. Except that’s a complete volte face from the public line that’s been taken for the last 4 years, which has basically been “the left are dirty antisemites and it’s all their fault”. Now we are pivoting to “ah yes both sides are bad” so fast it should make your head fall off. If it’s “both sides” - which fine I’ve long stated that Corbyn should have been more ruthless and fucked the right directly into the sun before they could do all this damage - then why has it taken an internal report to discern that fact? What was the press doing in the interim? Because it sure seems like there was a lot of scrutiny on one faction in the Labour Party, and a mysterious lack of scrutiny on another. You’d think something like “senior members of the party ringing a bell in celebration when they expel a member” wouldn’t be too difficult for a dogged lobby hack to unearth.
Countless people on the left - including many Jewish members - have been tossed from the party and suffered public opprobrium for saying the exact same things that have been said in this report. Will there be any similar consequences for those on the right who have cynically made a political weapon out of antisemitism (which is, btw, a grossly antisemitic thing to do), not to mention all the other horrible racist and ablist behaviour they demonstrated? I strongly doubt there will be, and that is highly demonstrative of how politics and the press operate in the UK.
To be fair, I think that most people who vote Labour don't follow these things and will base their opinions on this report and how the factions react to it.
Either way, time to stop this shit and win an election.
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If it’s “both sides” - which fine I’ve long stated that Corbyn should have been more ruthless and fucked the right directly into the sun before they could do all this damage
So your view is that if both sides are at fault, Corbyn should have sacked the right off as they caused the damage? Eh?
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Having been gaslit by sensible society for 4 or so years, yeah, it’s pretty shitty that the obvious gets printed by a QC and suddenly the superior types are “well, yes both sides of course”. Except that’s a complete volte face from the public line that’s been taken for the last 4 years, which has basically been “the left are dirty antisemites and it’s all their fault”. Now we are pivoting to “ah yes both sides are bad” so fast it should make your head fall off. If it’s “both sides” - which fine I’ve long stated that Corbyn should have been more ruthless and fucked the right directly into the sun before they could do all this damage - then why has it taken an internal report to discern that fact? What was the press doing in the interim? Because it sure seems like there was a lot of scrutiny on one faction in the Labour Party, and a mysterious lack of scrutiny on another. You’d think something like “senior members of the party ringing a bell in celebration when they expel a member” wouldn’t be too difficult for a dogged lobby hack to unearth.
Countless people on the left - including many Jewish members - have been tossed from the party and suffered public opprobrium for saying the exact same things that have been said in this report. Will there be any similar consequences for those on the right who have cynically made a political weapon out of antisemitism (which is, btw, a grossly antisemitic thing to do), not to mention all the other horrible racist and ablist behaviour they demonstrated? I strongly doubt there will be, and that is highly demonstrative of how politics and the press operate in the UK.