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  • uk politics, if by that we mean mostly the politics we are talking about above, is such an unbelievable insult. it is nice/reassuring to read the posts above which say as much, although at the same time it is quite triggering because it feeds the fury and despair.

    what occurs to me is that in terms of ‘affect’ this is not unlike the experience of reading the daily mail for many people. is this because of the medium/the internet? or because politics now is so degraded it has become like being in an abusive relationship where you become your basest most predictable self even as the victim?

    whilst making sure to avoid being done for incitement to riot, I would say there has to be a different approach so we get off of this terrible and inevitable feeling slippery slope.

  • It does feel bleak and like howling into the void, yes.

    And my mum is a prime example why (nothing like a bit of anecdata to labour a point). My mum is a Daily Mail reader for 50+ years and an absolutely consistent Conservative voter. She was a lifelong renter until she retired (so not lifelong, obvs), mainly relying on council housing and I qualified for free school meals. My wife asked her who she wanted to be the next leader of the Conservative party and she said “not that Starmer, he’ll bring us to our knees”. When it was pointed out that Kier Starmer was not in the Conservative party she got very huffy and said that she was being silenced and didn’t have a voice; her MP is an old Etonian Tory with a 20k majority.

    So we have nice people people like my mum (she is nice, the apple has fallen very far from the tree) who feel like they are under attack/powerless despite their views being clearly represented. And there are endless confected bogeymen to put up that will undermine their ability to shop in M&S (my mum).

    It’s not great, is it?

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