Car appreciation... the aesthetics, the engineering, etc

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  • ummm.... how about this one?

    https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/175340332851

    WELCOME TO JK CARS
    FOR SALE WE HAVE THIS
    PORSCHE CAYENNE 4.5 PETROL/LPG
    2006 private plate stays with the car
    NO MOT
    NO V5 new owner to apply full invoice will be given upon sale
    Being sold as spares or repairs due to it’s been standing for a while
    Runs and drives as it should
    Everything works inside the car
    Fully loaded
    Full grey leather, electric seats, heated seats, alloys
    Please call for more details

  • No V5, No MOT, "been standing for a while", photographed in front of shipping containers.

    There's so many red flags the USA wants to invade to squash the threat of communism.

  • Heehee. But spot on.

    And they are dogshit any way

  • And mick fleetwood

  • The bicycle repair guy has parked his car/van on my brothers street in France.


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  • 2004 Cayenne Turbo with 131,000 miles - what could go wrong?

    https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/115261135353

    you get the idea - i'll stop now.

  • Same as older range rovers.

    Oh and cheap boxsters

  • This one is betterer https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/175283570729

    Tapetty engine seems common.

  • Those renaults are cute, remind me of a commer van with tucked in wheels.

  • My neighbour has an old one, bought 2 years ago I think - one issue with a fuse that was a brief mystery but no major issues so far… He’s not doing many miles though.

    He mentioned it shares a platform with an Audi and a VW - might mean parts aren’t quite at the Dammit levels of Porsche tax.

  • The first generation were unreliable sheds, and the values dropped like a stone very quickly.
    Not quite Land Rover levels of breakage but close, and always expensive, despite the fact it was a VW Touareg in a dress.

  • An advert for one with the base level V6 petrol engine mentions VED at over £600 a year and 20mpg.

  • If you want that era SUV, a Touareg Altitude is probably the better car.

  • I have heard that a gen 1 toerag in manual and turbo diesel is a surprisingly good off roader with proper tyres and some simple underbody protection added

  • Height adjustable seats, dimmer on the cluster, electric mirrors, adjustable headlights (often auto now), lumbar support etc. All things that 20 years ago were pretty much options on anything from the middle up, and no chance on a more basic car.

    These days its not really planned obsolesce (IMO), more that no one really owns their cars, they are leased out for profit until such point as they are disposed of by the lease agency and then us plebs can buy them, or often leased again using a 3rd part down the line. Until they are about 8-11 years old, and an ABS/Airbag light comes on, and you spend £2k trying to fix it, still can't fix it and end up scrapping it.

    The common guy doesn't really care, just wants a car that looks good (SUV/bigger than the neighbours maybe), easy to drive, does the most possible to prevent crashing due to not being a great driver and costs what its estimated to cost for the intended duration of their use/ownership. Beyond that, its just some second hand lump that gets sold down the east end on another lease until end of life (which won't be more than 10 or 12 years).

    Had so many folk borrow my car (25 year old 300k mile diesel estate car) to do tip runs, bike weekend runs or when theirs is broken and they all say the same 'wow that drives well, not even for an old car, for any car, feels like your actually driving a vehicle and not playing playstation', and at the same time everything thats mean't to work does work, heated seats, dual zone, central locking, erm, electric windows? Thats about all the kit it has lol.

  • Seen so many cars that are 'fully loaded, top of the range, has all the kit', so you ask, does it have even moderate level of spec and answer is no, has nothing basically its business lease spec.

    Wasted quite a few days hunting for cars with these type of adverts where they even list the things that the car does not have fitted, nice touch.

  • Bjorn- you may be sorted by now but this place will make whatever you want, design, width, offset etc.

    https://www.augmentwheels.com/

  • /\ this man speaks the truth! @BrickMan

    also the usual adverts of "immaculate condition" , go and see it , its a effin wreck, "yeah but its age related marks mate...."

  • All true. People have forgotten what a good car feels like to drive. Now things are so numb, augmented and generally uninvolved that when they do get into a well sorted older car it's a revelation. Thing is, it's not that hard to keep an older car feeling good. Keep it clean, keep the tyres and suspension fresh and service the thing. Happy days.
    I'm most likely selling my recently acquired 308 GTi 270. Just can't gel with it. Might be safe, efficient and quite quick but it's just not making me want to drive.

  • totally this.
    shame about the 308. did you let the 306 go in the meantime?

  • Cheers

    Think im sorted, at least on paper but who knows about quality n tolerances so good to have. Thx

  • Skimming through that PH thread and someone is being smug with their 55oi touring. Who bought one of those? Was it @Olly398 ?

  • Original Cayenne, lol. Has officially dated faster than any other car. Absolutely horrendous.

  • Will do. It’s mad that these once expensive cars are now available for peanuts as well as plenty of problems

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