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  • Johnson notoriously was impressed by Trump's approach to things and copied some of his ideas. Wonder how far he's willing to take that.

  • Dozza's just turned up stating her support. It's just going to be him and her, in a cupboard, plotting their victory.

  • I'm baffled as to why? Within the current setup, he was almost destined to get the job, he could easily have had an easy 5 years in it if he chose and then swanned off to a hugely lucrative after-party.

    I find his behaviour and motivations very difficult to follow.

  • Oh, the tension

  • isn't an mp's pension based on the high point in their salary, i'd guess loads of people are accepting cabinet jobs for the boost in salary and thus pensions

    money grubbing bastards ( if true ) ! not sure if true

  • I find his behaviour and motivations very difficult to follow

    Assuming you're referring to Johnson, I long ago (around 2016) came to the conclusion that his sole motivation is doing what he thinks "the people" want him to be doing in order to stay popular/relevant, and his behaviour simply aims to make that happen. The fact that he's a self-interested, feckless, disorganised, selfish, greedy, arrogant, entitled, short-sighted boor means that these two facts sadly lead to the omnishambles in which we now find ourselves. Trying to discern where he may have applied a logic you might hope would accompany the decisions of a 'leader' is a total waste of time.

    At least that's what I reckon, probably preaching to the choir here I know.

  • Much as it's fun to see them all turn on each other, it's pretty revolting to hear them all talk about their 'values' of decency, competence, respect, trust etc. Where have they been for the last decade/their entire lifetimes?

    Let's not forget that they're all a bunch of cunts.

  • Who needs love island. Fantastic scenes.

  • Yep, everyone of them has been an apologist for, and enabler of, Johnson's woeful administration.

  • Brady's going in now "to offer wise council".

    It's like some toddler has lost at tiddlywinks and had a tantrum. First their siblings and then the parents are going to calm them down and get them to come out of their room. "I'm not coming out. It's not fair!"

  • After watching the closing salvos in the liaison committee, I've put money on a GE this year.

    He will never resign, and so dissolving parliament for an election will be the only course remaining to him.

  • That is just absolutely ridiculous. It shows how fucking basic they are.

    They have a majority. There is no reason to have an election and a million and one reasons to explain away why they won't call one.

    Proper last stand loosing arguments. And everyone will smell it.

  • My opinion is that he just does whatever the next donor/friend has bribed him to do next. Every single decision, scheme, project etc. that he comes out with seems to directly benefit someone who happens to be close to him.
    http://littleatoms.com/society/londons-garden-bridge-project-was-rigged-boris-johnson-it-cannot-go-ahead

  • It begs the question of if the same was done to undermine other party leaders. Journos shouldn't be seeking to shape the story imo.

    Asking an MP to resign on TV if they want to is not undermining the leader imo. Its not as if he was trying to convince her to resign.

  • After watching the closing salvos in the liaison committee, I've put money on a GE this year.

    He will never resign, and so dissolving parliament for an election will be the only course remaining to him.

    I think you might be right.

  • There is no reason to have an election

    1) Johnson campaigned on a platform of getting Brexit done. Its done. (lol)
    2) Parliament have no faith in him, either side of it.
    3) The public have no faith in him, including Tory membership.

    If they needed to call a GE to confirm that there was a mandate for Brexit, they need to call a GE for this. I know that they won't, but this really is the sort of moment where the public should be consulted.

  • Can't believe this lousy party has been continuously in power so long. People are reaching voting age who barely recall the early years of Austerity after the GFC. So much to damn them all.

  • I know this is pedantic, but a Prime Minister is not a President.

    Voters elect a representative, representatives form parties that form a government. 2019 Tory manifesto still has a mandate. Change of leader doesn't change that.

  • So does Raab take over, in line of succession, or does it go to the party?

  • I know this is pedantic, but a Prime Minister is not a President.

    Voters elect a representative, representatives form parties that form a government. 2019 Tory manifesto still has a mandate. Change of leader doesn't change that.

    You are completely correct, but 2019 was not a typical election in that regard. It was virtually single issue. I suppose I'm more frustrated at the system allowing this situation to arise than anything.

    We have a government with a leader who is incredibly unpopular and incapable, supported by a cabinet of morons, who in combination are failing miserably to deliver on their manifesto.

    2019 manifesto: 50,000 new nurses. 40 new hospitals. 20,000 new police. 50 million more GP appointments. Increase in business funding and investment into community initiatives. (Progress towards) Net zero. No tax raises. Points based immigration system.

    By my count, they've delivered one of them and are not on course to achieve the others.

    It fucking sucks that the Uk might have to wait until 2024 to have a vote on this situation.

  • Raab interim until the party elect a new leader

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