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• #802
Sure, but there’s very little, if any, debate in the car thread on those vehicles being large contributors to carbon emissions both globally and locally.
BEVs are not the solution to climate change. That should be fucking obvious. It just baffles me that people choose to spend time having that debate here whilst entirely avoiding the conversation in the car thread.
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• #803
Because EV has been the term for electric cars for years?
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• #804
That's not true, it's been raised before there. Anyway, this is the car thread, just a subset for those with more money.
But really my pov is that it's disappointing that what should be a progressive thread about transport that better suits our local and broader environment, particularly with regards to our interest of cycling.
While the bigger picture is more suitable for discussion in climate and environment threads, I think this is absolutely the right place to be critical about individuals transport decisions. It's the one of the few things I feel I can control right now to make a difference.
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• #805
are you skunked? the term for Electric Cars is Electric Cars
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• #806
it's disappointing that what should be a progressive thread about transport that better suits our local and broader environment, particularly with regards to our interest of cycling
The OP describes the intention of the thread. I know because I wrote it.
This ^ is not it.
If you want a different thread, go and make one.
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• #807
Since when did you become a moderator?
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• #808
And that's why it's disappointing. I understand we need organisation, but there's such a crossover.
Merge with car thread? It seems EV is just another option to be selected.
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• #809
Since when did you become a moderator?
Hahahhah.
I'm merely responding to being told what the thread should be about.
Just make a thread called "progressive transport options".
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• #810
Merge with car thread? It seems EV is just another option to be selected.
This thread forked from the car thread.
Anyone for tennis?
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• #811
Time for the regular reminder that the only thing EVs save is the automotive industry.
Reducing deaths by NOx emissions was my main motivation in getting an electric car.
I don't see that being undermined by your platitude.
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• #812
List time:
Threads that should be about climate change, not what they are actually about:
1 This one
2 The car one
3 The camper van one
4 The formula one one
5 The outdoor cooking one
6 The food one
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• #813
I mean personally I had hoped the e-bike thread would have had a lot more electric motorcycle type things in it because for the most part I'm a bit uninterested in e-assisted pedal bikes aside from as an aide for those who can't manage full pedal for health reasons but what can you do?
I don't think anyone will get upset if you start posting other EVs in here so feel free to go all in on planes, trains and otherwise I suppose?
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• #814
Reducing deaths by NOx emissions was my main motivation in getting an electric car
Why post that in the EVs thread?
*Ok, joking now. But actually, that's what I came here for..but I'm rarely seeing.
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• #815
Dear God. Posting that a thread isn't about what you think it should be about really is the most pointless thing. If you want to discuss milk floats or e-copters or other EVs here, just go ahead. If there is appetite for that discussion it'll carry on and evolve. If not, it won't.
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• #816
milk floats
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• #817
only thing EVs save is the automotive industry.
Rivian electric pick up that was on Top Gear this week but might be the pinnacle of that sentiment
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• #818
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• #819
I'm enjoying the rental scooters this summer, not too expensive n'all
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• #820
^ and ^^^ - exactly. Pioneering EVs.
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• #821
Sort of pulling the thread back to EVs, what do people think of the Hyundai Ionic 6?
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• #822
It’s… interesting looking.
Sort of reminds me of those Chinese knockoff rolls Royce etc
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• #823
Bit hard to wheelie though, even with the battery over the rear wheel
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• #824
Pulling the thread back to an era when the UK led the World in the number of electric vehicles*.
Raised in Ruislip Manor, just up the road from the headquarters of Express Dairy, in South Ruislip,
I naturally assumed that electric milk floats were the acknowledged standard.
Imagine my surprise, when starting commuting by Tube to Hillingdon (for Swakeleys) station for secondary school, (September '71), I found a local dairy had a bespoke diesel Transit for their deliveries.[* complete supposition].
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• #825
Just before I left London the local milk float was definitely using a combustion engine. Felt weird, they've always had electric motors from memory
Sure, but what should people do now?
We don’t have good rail or bus links either from an affordability standpoint or, more importantly, practicality.
Should everyone just buy a petrol car if they need one? Or a cargo bike and just hope they never need to go more than 10 miles away?
It’s condescending and a pipe dream to say we can do without cars right now.