• Needs to be shorter shorter,

    What I’m basing my fit off is a m surly ogre with a 50mm stem and swept bars

    I have bikes with a 57cm tt and I can only use proper sit up and beg bars on them for distance

    With 56cm frames/ larger and short stems I can get them comfortable for 30-40 miles, but not back to back days / longer stuff

    Have fibromyalgia so need to be pretty much upright and don’t have the strength to throw larger frames around due to heart disease

    It’s why all my bikes look a little unconventional fit wise

  • That's fair. Should be able to get a comparison on geo geeks if you ever wan to compare.

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