• You will get a cheaper one than that it you keep looking. Think £400 to £450.

    I'm 5ft 11 and large was ideal. Reach was pretty short with the shorter stem I put on. Loads of standover as well.

    How about that Trek in the classifieds as well. I see you what you mean about reach on that but with a shorter stem and the saddle forwards you could lose the 4cm difference.

  • Needs to be shorter shorter,

    What I’m basing my fit off is a m surly ogre with a 50mm stem and swept bars

    I have bikes with a 57cm tt and I can only use proper sit up and beg bars on them for distance

    With 56cm frames/ larger and short stems I can get them comfortable for 30-40 miles, but not back to back days / longer stuff

    Have fibromyalgia so need to be pretty much upright and don’t have the strength to throw larger frames around due to heart disease

    It’s why all my bikes look a little unconventional fit wise

  • That's fair. Should be able to get a comparison on geo geeks if you ever wan to compare.

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