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So what are they offering? Because "We're not quite as bad as the Tories and we're not Jeremy Corbyn" probably isn't enough, to be perfectly honest.
The scenario you paint is pretty depressing. It's essentially: "Nothing is going to get better, you just have to accept things aren't going to improve and live with it." But change is possible and, for me, they need to make the case for it. Which is also possible. Look at the way Mick Lynch went on telly yesterday and schooled every single two-bit client journalist who tried to skewer him. Just calmly restating the case and making the Tory attack lines look ridiculous. I want a Labour leader who does that, not one who looks morosely into the distance, sighs heavily and regrets that nothing can be done about the terrible situation we find ourselves in. The kind of leader Starmer said he was going to be before he won and ditched everything he'd campaigned on.
It's probably worth adding I don't know exactly who that is (Clive Lewis, maybe?), but I know for sure it isn't Starmer. Because he's told me as such.
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The scenario you paint is pretty depressing. It's essentially: "Nothing is going to get better, you just have to accept things aren't going to improve and live with it." But change is possible and, for me, they need to make the case for it. Which is also possible. Look at the way Mick Lynch went on telly yesterday and schooled every single two-bit client journalist who tried to skewer him. Just calmly restating the case and making the Tory attack lines look ridiculous. I want a Labour leader who does that, not one who looks morosely into the distance, sighs heavily and regrets that nothing can be done about the terrible situation we find ourselves in. The kind of leader Starmer said he was going to be before he won and ditched everything he'd campaigned on.
It is utterly depressing and I wish it wasn't true. I'm also not saying that we should just accept the way things are and live with it. All I'm doing is arguing that I think a lot of Labours positions recently have been calculated rather than come from sheer ineptitude.
I also wish we had a Labour leader who could perform as well as Mike Lynch but with policies that would win votes from the Tories. Thats unfortunately not the reality we live in and until there is that sort of leader, its going to be a case of pissing with the cock you've got.
Would Wes Streeting be an improvement? I have no idea how people percieve him.
Stonehedge
I think a dose of realism is needed. Labour probably wouldn't be able to act like a true Labour government for at least 2 if not 3 more general elections, if they win the next one at all. I think its unrealistc to expect that an escape from their current situation is possible for at least ten years. There is no circumstance where Starmer could win an election and deliver true left wing policies and stay in power.