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No, I read your post that said that the Tories "are winning at this" and disagreed. If they were winning at their tactics, they wouldn't be going backwards.
OK, well to explain it again, they are succeeding in getting Labour to more or less fall in line with Conservative Party orthodoxy. By treating practically every Tory policy as a 'wedge issue' to be avoided, Labour is painting itself into a corner from which it will be unable to escape when the time comes to offer an alternative. Now, that's not going to translate into immediate poll gains for the Tories and won't offset Johnson's dire performance either, but there's another two years before the next GE, by which time I fear if the current Labour tactics continue, there'll be barely a fag paper between the two main parties.
n3il - Where was this view five years ago?!?!
Right?
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Labour is painting itself into a corner from which it will be unable to escape when the time comes to offer an alternative.
I think a dose of realism is needed. Labour probably wouldn't be able to act like a true Labour government for at least 2 if not 3 more general elections, if they win the next one at all. I think its unrealistc to expect that an escape from their current situation is possible for at least ten years. There is no circumstance where Starmer could win an election and deliver true left wing policies and stay in power.
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they are succeeding in getting Labour to more or less fall in line with Conservative Party orthodoxy
They are falling in line with UK voter orthodoxy.
By treating practically every Tory policy as a 'wedge issue' to be avoided...
Practically every issue is a wedge issue to be avoided because wedge issues are the Tory strategy. It's how/why they won over the red wall.
Stonehedge
frankenbike
No, I read your post that said that the Tories "are winning at this" and disagreed. If they were winning at their tactics, they wouldn't be going backwards.
No, its not enough. But I think anybody who thinks its possible for Labour, under different leadership, to be 20 points ahead, is perhaps underestimating how much the political landscape has changed and how much the role of the tabloid media has grown. I actually think it is remarkable that Labour are doing as well as they are considering how much the situation is rigged against them.