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Did you read my post and think: "This guy believes the Tories are ahead in the polls, I'd best correct him?" Because you should probably read it again if you did.
No, I read your post that said that the Tories "are winning at this" and disagreed. If they were winning at their tactics, they wouldn't be going backwards.
Does 6.3% in the face of all that seem enough to you? Seems a bit precarious to me given the absolute state of the Tories under Johnson. Shouldn't Labour be, and I quote, 20 points ahead?
No, its not enough. But I think anybody who thinks its possible for Labour, under different leadership, to be 20 points ahead, is perhaps underestimating how much the political landscape has changed and how much the role of the tabloid media has grown. I actually think it is remarkable that Labour are doing as well as they are considering how much the situation is rigged against them.
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But I think anybody who thinks its possible for Labour, under different leadership, to be 20 points ahead, is perhaps underestimating how much the political landscape has changed and how much the role of the tabloid media has grown. I actually think it is remarkable that Labour are doing as well as they are considering how much the situation is rigged against them.
Where was this view five years ago?!?!
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No, I read your post that said that the Tories "are winning at this" and disagreed. If they were winning at their tactics, they wouldn't be going backwards.
OK, well to explain it again, they are succeeding in getting Labour to more or less fall in line with Conservative Party orthodoxy. By treating practically every Tory policy as a 'wedge issue' to be avoided, Labour is painting itself into a corner from which it will be unable to escape when the time comes to offer an alternative. Now, that's not going to translate into immediate poll gains for the Tories and won't offset Johnson's dire performance either, but there's another two years before the next GE, by which time I fear if the current Labour tactics continue, there'll be barely a fag paper between the two main parties.
n3il - Where was this view five years ago?!?!
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ketsbaia
Did you read my post and think: "This guy believes the Tories are ahead in the polls, I'd best correct him?" Because you should probably read it again if you did.
But on the polls, Labour is on average 6.3% ahead - against categorically the worst PM in history who's just survived a no-confidence vote, with inflation running at 10%, a cost-of-living crisis, energy price cap removed, Partygate, Carriegate, woeful mishandling of the pandemic needlessly killing tens of thousands of people, billions of pounds of taxpayer money wasted on useless PPE and failed track and trace, etc.
Does 6.3% in the face of all that seem enough to you? Seems a bit precarious to me given the absolute state of the Tories under Johnson. Shouldn't Labour be, and I quote, 20 points ahead?