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  • Thing is, literally anything can be viewed as a so-called 'wedge issue'. That's kind of the point of opposing a Government, really. The Tories are going to scream 'Back to the 70s' whatever - and they already have despite what Starmer has instructed his front bench to do. So you might as well take a stand rather than this pathetic, lily-livered bullshit we're being fed in the name of 'not falling in to the Tory trap'. Here's the thing. The Tory trap is to get you to accept their legitimacy on ALL the issues, then beat you because they are better at it. They are winning at this hands down right now and no amount of 'but we must not fall in to the trap' is going to change that. The point of having an alternative is actually having an alternative. If you're not offering that, why would anyone vote for it if they don't like the way things are?

  • They are winning at this hands down right now

    The Tories and Boris Johnson are behind in the polls.. By some way.

    Labour have even just pulled in front of the Tories on "who would manage the economy better". More people think Starmer would make a good prime minister than Johnson.

    Exactly how badly is Starmer actually doing right now? And how much is it parts of the media just briefing that Starmer isn't doing well?

  • The Tories and Boris Johnson are behind in the polls.. By some way.

    Did you read my post and think: "This guy believes the Tories are ahead in the polls, I'd best correct him?" Because you should probably read it again if you did.

    But on the polls, Labour is on average 6.3% ahead - against categorically the worst PM in history who's just survived a no-confidence vote, with inflation running at 10%, a cost-of-living crisis, energy price cap removed, Partygate, Carriegate, woeful mishandling of the pandemic needlessly killing tens of thousands of people, billions of pounds of taxpayer money wasted on useless PPE and failed track and trace, etc.

    Does 6.3% in the face of all that seem enough to you? Seems a bit precarious to me given the absolute state of the Tories under Johnson. Shouldn't Labour be, and I quote, 20 points ahead?

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