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• #21327
VFR’d around the canyons in Malibu a bit today. Nice to have some grip from new tyres, though it feels a bit less pointy with the correct fitment 170 on the back. I think a half inch or so more ride height helped.
Might invest in some ti bolts for the hero blobs. There are none at the moment and I skimmed the right peg today. Very little after that before the exhaust so some notice would be good.
And the sparks will annoy my friends….
Thoroughly enjoyed myself, so much so at one point I almost ran out of gas.
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• #21328
Gotcha
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• #21329
I should be doing the same on the F3 (hero blobs). Week or so ago I was getting sparks off everything on a Burgman, that was funny.
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• #21330
Haha, scraping hardware is always fun until something digs in and lifts the back tyre off the ground.
I've done about 800 miles on the VFR now, which for me is pretty astonishing in such a short time. By and large, I still really love it, though I'm torn on keeping it. For everyday riding, it is superb - easily the most comfortable bike I've ever owned. It's swift, quiet, does an astonishing job with even the most extreme shit roads.
For pissing around in the lower speed canyon twisties, it's way better than it should be. Brakes feel a little wooden but get it stopped and the suspension and front weight bias mean that you can keep it WFO on roads that have both the GSXR and Duc either squirming or bucking me out of the seat. With the new 2CTs fitted, I went from peg to peg a couple of times yesterday, totally unflustered. In fact, I consciously had to wind my neck in as the whole feel of the bike is so encouragingly playful. It WAS better for feel with the 180 squeezed on the back but I can't comment on edge grip as I had to be circumspect riding hard on the 15 year old rubber. A little more rear ride height would liven it up, I bet.
The only negatives boil down to power and weight. For a heavy bike, it hides the pork magnificently. It does NOT feel cumbersome, particularly on the slower stuff. However, faster sweepers, like 80+ are not so fun. By fun, there's nothing wrong, it tracks fine, steers easily and still feels confidence inspiring but trying to ride it hard on a fast road, is not all that rewarding. The only longer ride I've done (270miles) included the Highway 33, which is easily one of the best roads in California. It goes over the mountains from the badlands down into the Ojai valley and is an absolute SCREAMER. I don't get to ride it that often as it's further out but man is it worth the trip. Smooth, relatively wide, not really anything that tightens and a mix of medium to unmentionably fast corners that flow together for 30 odd miles, non-stop.
The last time I went over, was on the GSXR and it was mental. I stopped on the other side and was shaking and laughing, everything was amazing. It was one of those rides where you feel jazzed for days after. The VFR, no so much. Maybe because it starts at 4000' or so, the old viffer was already a bit wheezy just getting up to the sort of speed you need to carry along the road. Most places you can make decent progress between 6-9k but there, I was bumping into the redline everywhere. It can't hide the weight in the fast corners either, it's fine, if maybe a little wallowy once you get in, but it's not accurate like a sportsbike on turn in and for the really rapid stuff, the vagueness gets a little tiring. Half way over, I slowed down because I wasn't really enjoying myself and it seemed pointless to keep thrashing it.
Aside from a few cramps, I managed the whole 270miles in short order with an absolute minimum of discomfort. The same ride on the GSXR would have me creaking for a couple of days for sure....BUT, the GSXR is SO exciting to ride and so well suited to (most) of the route, it'd be hard not to favor it. For the slower, near by stuff, despite being a plank, the Duc is hilarious. It sounds absurd, feels better the more you spank it and makes you feel like a hero. For anything other than fast canyon riding, it sounds like someone chucked a bucket of bolts in the engine, it gets hot, the brake discs rattle alarmingly and are strong enough to pitch you over the bars with two fingers and it vibrates like a diesel dildo. Horrible.
As a do everything platform, if you can find a nice one, the VFRs are a special bike. Everything from the engine vibration, through the handling and ride comfort feels epically refined. The fit and finish from the frame castings to paint is impeccable. Bottom line, is that I have a nagging suspicion it's too nice for me. To modify it to address some of the things I dislike would feel wrong.
What I'd really like, is to toss all the fairing, seat and VFR bits. Fit a loud pipe, rejet, maybe add some emulators and a rear shock, some race RC30 bodywork and vestigial lights and have a proper fast, road weapon. Lose 20kg easy, pickup 10hp or so, retain the road manners and have an erzatz RC for a steal. Couldn't do it to this one though.
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• #21331
Do it to that one.
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• #21332
Nah, it's too nice - aside from the cracked fairing it's exactly as Honda intended. Even the suspension feels fresh, which is ludicrous for a 25 year old bike. And I couldn't take the missus for coffee.
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• #21333
I couldn't resist and did my own tail tidy thing. I will upgrade it later on with either a kit or some better work of my own, but for now it opens up the back a bit, looks acceptable, took two hours and it was basically free.
I have a new bench seat ordered from Wilder. Hopefully turns out okay.
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• #21334
Looks good!
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• #21335
Bat dad?
Is it me or do modern motorbike semi slick look odd on a retro bike? At a guess I am missing something.
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• #21336
Rode this around with no helmet, shorts but no flip flops...
Best fun in ages.
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• #21337
That looks hella fun
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• #21338
The CL175s are running!
Words to the wise....always order new petrol taps and do not meticulously clean and rebuild a set of carburetors before establishing they are actually the correct ones for the bike.
Aside from terrible brakes, they're more fun than I expected! Precise, close ratio box, rorty little exhaust note and they rev to the moon. Should sing along at 60 no bother and maybe 80 flat oot with a following wind. Rather a long list of snagging to do before we set off next week but both bikes sound like they're in good fettle.
The IRC scooter tyres I fitted to mine appear to be grip-free zones. Hoping that it's just a hefty spooge of old school release agent that will wear off.
After long posturing that all old Honda twins were shit, I may be forced to eat a little crow. The 60s ones appear to be pretty damn racy (relatively speaking) and more fun than I expected.
70s Honda twins are definitely shit though.
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• #21339
Caveat, a nicely fettled, Suzuki T20 Hustler would piss all over them, so if I ever get roped into vintage shenanigans in the future, two strokes all the way.
I reckon the little Hondas are going to embarass a few Triumph boys though, especially in the twisties.
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• #21340
No sure what you are on about, the suzuki I pictured is a 90cc. Shite brakes and shite tyres for grip but low low 90cc power means helmetless fun, as it doesn't go fast enough to hurt you ;)
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• #21341
Like it - perfect beach wheels!
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• #21342
90cc power means helmetless fun, as it doesn't go fast enough to hurt you
I know you know that's not true but fair enough in jest. Stay safe and enjoy life on the edge :)
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• #21343
Not many beaches around the 'burbs but with those tyres it is great for speed bumps and potholes.
It is an early 70s rv90 I think. Bit of fettling and it was running sweet.
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• #21344
True, but I rode scooters in Italy from a young age and there was a time you could ride a scooter with out a helmet when you were 18 or older. Scooters didn't have reg plates for years too.
Have cycled faster that I rode the bike as I wasn't sure what the brakes were like. They were very very vague.
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• #21345
I haven't been there for a decade but no-one used to wear helmets in Napoli. Me and the Mrs were once pulled over by a heavily armed unmarked unit for wearing full face lids on a scoot in the Quartieri Spagnoli. They told us the only people that wear them are villains. Got to love NA...
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• #21346
You can see the police logic ;)
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• #21347
Went for a long green lane odyssey into darkest Northamptonshire on Sunday to finish the loop around santa pod, last time they kicked me out despite sticking to the byway. First time encountering traffic on the lanes too with 4x4s, and some tough riding in the deep ruts they produce. I speculatively rode onto a farm where they run motocross and enduro days as they'd gone very quiet on social media. Turns out they're going at it alone without the local bike shop promoting their events and booked on for a couple of weeks time. Can't wait, but was nice knowing you etc.
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• #21348
So green, lovely! Somewhat jealous, I haven't been out on dirt for weeks now and it's only getting hotter.
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• #21349
I'm the opposite, recently its been all dirt. Can't wait to get the SRAD's wheels back from the garage tomorrow, have been powder coated and new rubber fitted.
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• #21350
I’m off for the Moto Melee thing on Friday. 800 miles of mostly tarmac with some dirt on a fifty something year old 175. Not exactly sure why I thought it was a good idea!
No I'm saying the current picture is even better than what it would have been even if he'd framed it correctly anyway