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Stonehedge in reply to @hoefla

I've also had to fight for my identity and my pride in who I am (it's still tentative tbh). Pride shouldn't be confused with superiority. I don't think I'm better than anyone else or that being English or British is great in any sense, but it is who I am.

I think you've basically just elegantly described patriotism vs nationalism.

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bazschmaz in reply to @Stonehedge

Or the difference between ‘ethnic nationalism’ and ‘civic nationalism’

Anytime people mention blood and soil they’re gonna get side eye.

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