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  • You could have been on a plane to Rwanda by now.

    I jest but seriously. Why can’t we all live together and get rid of some of the shittier English people to Rwanda.

  • This kind of takes us back to earlier discussion of patriotism... https://www.lfgss.com/comments/16565320/
    My idea of patriotism is to pay your taxes, obey the law, be a good citizen etc.
    It has fuck-all to do with where you were born, the colour of your skin, hair, eyes or whatever. On that basis, if really want to start deporting people, do it to the tax dodgers, culture war stokers etc
    Sadly, to many people, patriotism is flags, blood & soil which is a massive worry.
    Also the way it affects our attitude to our past also concerns me quite deeply and we seem to be going the wrong direction with this too

  • blood & soil

    Blood and soil is kind of a thing though, to me and others. I know not everyone feels this way but some do. I wouldn't describe it as 'patriotism' as to me that's about Queen and country. Quite a formative part of my identity is a sense of belonging or attachment or something to a land, a landscape, a place. Part of that is that it's "in my blood" which I imagine I interpret in a different way to most - it's in my blood because that's where I grew up. It isn't to do with where I was born or where my parents came from, but it's blood in the sense of body.

    I've also had to fight for my identity and my pride in who I am (it's still tentative tbh). Pride shouldn't be confused with superiority. I don't think I'm better than anyone else or that being English or British is great in any sense, but it is who I am.

    I know some people have no attachment to the place or places they grew up in, it's not a right or wrong. I feel anger and to some extent shame at 'our' governments actions and lack of actions, but I don't associate that with blood and soil.

  • The current UK government is going against what the official life in the UK test (needed to pass an exam to get irl / citizenship) says the UK is...

    Liberal tolerant nope
    Working hard nope
    Fair nope
    Etc...

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