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  • I thought the theory was productivity would be about the same?

    A large chunk of my role involves thinking about stuff. Some of that I do while cycling home, standing in the shower, etc. So hours at my desk aren't directly linked to the amount of work I produce. That isn't the same for a more manual job.

  • Tommy Robinson admits to spending £100k of supporter donations on gambling. Which comes as a suprise to absolutely nobody.

    https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-leeds-61753172

  • I worked 33h weeks in 4 days. I split it up as:-

    • Tu & We: 7-3pm with a 30 minute lunch break = 7.5h/day
    • Th & Fr: 8-5.30pm with a 30 minute lunch break = 9h/day

    The early finishes were designed to allow me to pick up my daughter from primary school (my wife, also working part time, covered the other days).

    I had to come up with the hours I wanted to work when I moved to flexible working, and the rules were (amongst others):

    • Maximum 9h per day
    • Minimum 20m lunch break (if the day is 6h or longer)

    So there ways no way to do a full working week in 4 days, you could just say "I'll do four 10 hour days please".

    Obviously my base salary was cut to 33/37 of normal (as my full time employment contract stated a 37h work week), but the rest of my benefits were kept at 100%. My holiday was also cut accordingly, and I had to account for it in hours (rather than whole days) so taking a a Thursday off cost more hours than a Tuesday. Bank Holidays were also proportionally covered (and that got a bit complicated sometimes).

    I loved working a 4 day week, and did it for almost 10 years, some of my colleagues didn't like it as much, mainly because they were too thick to consistently remember that I didn't work on a Monday and would get annoyed when I didn't turn up to meetings they'd arranged despite my calendar saying I was off and me never accepting them (and usually rejecting them with a polite note).

    Don't need the flexibility now as daughter is at secondary school, so I'm back to being full time (elsewhere) but WFH.

  • I worked part time when my kids were small. 3.5 days of hours over 3 days. 2 days doing toddler stuff. It was awesome until the company got bought and the new management were not accommodating.

  • #csb

    I got my last boss to give me Fridays off in lieu of a pay rise. With my OH doing 4 days as well it meant we only had to do 3 days in nursery for our eldest which made a real difference. Plus it was really nice for us each to have a day with them on our own.

    In the grand scheme of things it's such a short period of your life, I wish everyone had that sort of flexibility. Ironically nowadays when people move jobs so often it feels like there is less incentive for employers to do these sorts of things than ever before.

  • I do condensed hours - 37.5 over the four days. The days are long and it's pretty exhausting but having a three day weekend every weekend is unbelievably good. Sunday night I'm invariably buzzing and actually game to do some work on Monday. The 80% hours 100% pay trials are so exciting.
    Frustrating remembering being laughed off the doorstep when talking about the idea of 4 day week at the last General election.

  • I do a 0.75 FTE over 4 days, works out roughly as two 9-5s and two 9-3s.
    Everyone should be part time.

  • Several of my customers have implemented this quite successfully over the last 5 or 6 years. I'm using it in a new venture I started recently.

    No set working hours. No set working days. At least if you implement in its purest form.

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Teal_organisation

  • Wfh makes condensed hours a lot more viable, if you got a long commute though I found it can get really tiring, it is incredible how much better 3 days off than 2 is though

  • Sounds like no set time off....

  • There's definitely the risk of that happening if handled badly. We mandate 6 weeks paid holiday to make sure that doesn't happen.

  • It's also worth noting that a lot of people struggle with this way of working simply because they've been conditioned a certain way for so long. It can have a negative effect on diversity in a company if you aren't aware of that.

  • But evenings and weekends?
    Or is it a 'live the role' sort of job?

  • I hate LinkedIn, even more so now with these posts popping up about people being negative about 4 day weeks, won't be able to fit all their work in etc.

    I quite like my job, but I can't imagine being upset about having one less work day a week, sounds absolutely bonkers.

  • I think a big plus of fractional full time equivalent role is it's much easier to understand when you're overworked, and to be able to say you can't fit it in. Full time work seems to end up being (in my experience) work evenings and weekends a bit to fit it everything in. Like it's actually 'full time'!

  • But evenings and weekends?

    Only if you want to. I don't. I set my working hours as 7am to 3pm Monday to Friday and only work out of hours if I need to meet a colleague in another time zone half way.

    We have at least one chronic insomniac who tends to work at night mostly. I wish they weren't a chronic insomniac but it works for them in their circumstances.

  • The person who works in retail at Harrods needs the job to feed/ clothe / house themselves.
    No sports person deserves £xM an appearance.

    (edit - what revenant said)

  • I’m paid for 4 days a week (M-Th) - not by choice - in at 09:30, out at 7 or 8. Today (Fri) I did a load of emails, calls and videoconference. I hate 4 day weeks because I get paid 4/5ths and work just as hard.

  • Not sure my employer (NHS) would go for a 4 day week.....

  • I love all this talk of 4 days weeks. I bet all my 4-day-a-week-working lovely clients would be overjoyed if i tell them their side return is going to take 2 weeks longer cos I’ve decided to only work 4 days a week as well

  • 4 day week chat is hilarious.

  • Loads of situations where four day weeks don't work...not least of all if you're on a day rate.

  • All this chat will stop when the UK is sold off to a new boss.

  • Loads of situations where four day weeks don't work.

    Which is fair enough, but doesn't mean that jobs where it can work shouldn't do it.

    Just like working at home. Not every job can, but that shouldn't mean everyone's back in an office.

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