• Mine is 0 on a 50mm stem, which is worth bearing in mind if you like the bars rolled back, with a 35mm stem it felt a bit odd.

  • From what I understand from Lee Mcormack 0 or close to it is ideal for downhill orientated set up, 15-20mm for trail and possibly longer for xc.

  • downhill orientated

    Yep that's me.

    I suppose as XC bikes become more slack the stems will shorten, where as they've been long to provide stability to the steep HTA.

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