• so here’s a thing, I love Curtis Mayfield’s music, along with Bobby Womack and James Brown.

    However, I took GF to this gig last night, DJ set by Eddie Piller (co-founder of acid jazz records with Giles Peterson) was truly awful and why the f@rk was I listening to northern soul and even Paul Weller songs, certainly didn’t provide the hype build up for the main event. The band of twelve minus lead singer and the guy on percussion were all white. The audience I’d say 98% white. Also white people can’t dance, couples in their 50’s or dads wearing hats hanging out with their kids. I didn’t hear or see any improvisation which is what I was expecting given event title that an orchestra will be playing. At best a tribute band made up of ex members from Jamiroquai, Brand New Heavies, Incognito who played all of Mayfield’s classic tunes in the first 30 minutes. No stage presence, no vibe, the stage lighting was meh, are people so keen to hear live music to accept this dross? I suppose the location says alot. We split early to catch DJ Femi Fem in town to find our tribe.

    rant over

  • The audience I’d say 98% white.

    Sounds like a hip-hop gig, TBF even in London where a good 13% of the population is black, you're going to get big proportion of white people making up the audience unless it's something quite specific and Curtis Mayfield has a pretty broad appeal. Can't comment on the music but it warns you of Jamiroquai on the poster, so you've only got yourself to blame.

    Also white people can’t dance

    Hey now, white people only learn to dance after taking MDMA, and the knowledge fades the longer it's been since we've had it, you can't blame us for that.

    couples in their 50’s or dads wearing hats hanging out with their kids

    Dude was big in the 70s, those couples would've heard him as kids and now have kids.

    Sorry you had a shit gig but this seems like an odd thread to post about it in.

  • Thanks @snottyotter yeah Jamiroquai was the clue and I should have read up on Nick Piller.

    I’m all for celebrating black excellence in music, but rarely does it feel genuine, or appreciated appropriately.

    I am in my 50s too, grew up with Curtis Mayfield but like the audience, conditioned to experience his music in the same way. I can’t blame others for attending the gig and they were having a good time.

    As for hip hop audiences being predominantly white.. this is not true, it wasn’t that long ago at the Forum, Kentish Town I saw EPMD live. My generation was there, wearing track suits, kangol hats, trunk jewellery. Most were black men out with their mates. Kentish Town is as mixed a neighbourhood as there could be. It was an epic night, my tribe, my vibe.

  • Unless it's rare groove which has a sub culture marinated in UK street sound than the audience is gonna be mostly white. We tend to hold tight to our music and any culture vultures are quickly ousted .
    So there are many subgenres mainstream hasn't got a clue.

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