• Really depends on if it was the plus tyres you didn't like or the handling/ride position, as I don't think the 2 are comparable apart from that

    Short or long wheelbase?

    I expect you're more used to a lighter, more stretched out race position, but then you do also ride a cargo bike a lot :-)

  • SWB, older diamond frame with uncrown fork, so not huge tyres I believe (at least at the back). I think I'd keep a bike with suspension and this would replace my "touring" bike, which doesn't really see any touring but does see some commuting. After a few years riding proper dutch cargo bikes for work my back doesn't seem to get on with a road position for more than a few hours.

    Krampus just felt a bit heavy and imprecise. Didn't really like it's charge at stuff and hope the big tyres get you through approach. I imagine the Jones front end feels quite a bit lighter and manoeuvrable.

    This is all quite speculative and reliant on selling about three other bikes.

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