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Agree that Stooges are a good option, and there's a few happy owners of them on here
I quite like the Kona Unit as a otp complete bike. Complete ssmtbs seem to be rare now, so you may have to build one up
I've somehow never seen this thread before
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I can send you several hundred photos of bikes from that thread if you like :-D
BareNecessities
Does it need to be tall headtube/drop bar geometry like the Gryphon?