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  • so as somebody who isn’t into ‘graff’ can anyone explain the schism between street art and graffiti?
    looking in from the outside it seems that street art is the palatable socially acceptable end and the true graffiti artists detest this with a passion so will tag the shit out of it. is this the case?

    there is a Gary x Pref piece near me and it didn’t take long for it to to be tagged and essentially vandalised.
    happy to be educated on this bit it seems that the extreme ends of the spectrum really don’t like each other?

  • You've got it spot on

    Graff writers generally aren't fans of street artist.
    Graffiti is generally done illegally and is self taught or passed on from toehr writers
    In my view they generally look at street artists as people who only paint legal walls, don't follow 'the rules' of Graff, do it for the wrong reasons. I could go on here
    Then there's the whole stencils/projectors etc. That Graff writers can't stand due to it being seen as colouring in

    Tldr: street art is usually pretty pictures and Graff is hard to decipher and usually done by writers for writers not general consumption

  • There’s definitely this lifestyle aspect to it. I’ve been watching the Kella videos and the stories of ‘racking’ paint, food, booze all day long and surfing the underground and buses writing all night. The act of vandalism and absolutely destroying insides of buses and trains is a major part of the culture/life and having credibility.

    https://youtu.be/hLrva0mUyzU

    https://youtu.be/AxuOMHpP3L0

    https://youtu.be/88w5HOONxLQ

  • So not dissimilar to the fixie fakenger craze that took over London in 2007, it spawned a whole fandom of events, forums, shops and media attention.
    All on the back of couriers riding their fixed wheel bicycles in an attempt to earn a crust to buy gear and red stripe.
    The money moved in and so did the urban fashion fixie spread in E.S magazine wearing a rapha ‘fixed’ jersey and pair of cut downs astride the fasion editors pinarello, cycling cap at a jaunty angle.

  • I think both have crossed over a lot in the last few years, I know a lot of graff folk that are street artists too.

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