• I went OTT listing the systemic problems of housing as a way to put consumer choice into perspective, ie haraguing someone over train vs car is not going to stop the government's unstoppable subsidies for the motor industry nor change private developer's ability to build new homes in greenfield sites away from town centres.

    In essence I don't disagree with you about it, and I am with you (train or cycle only, reduce motor journeys to minimum etc), but (apologies for the pop psychology) but 'consumer choices' are in general just carefully curated end nudges that have v little impact on the environmentally devastating but well established supply chains.

  • haraguing someone over train vs car is not going to stop the government's unstoppable subsidies for the motor industry nor change private developer's ability to build new homes in greenfield sites away from town centres.

    I think it's ok for conversations to develop from one example to take in wider issues. You've explained a root cause of the problem here, which is useful.

    On a positive note Lewisham shopping centre multi storey car park is being turned into affordable housing and green spaces. Just moved to the area and watching development with interest.

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