• yeah I did a lot of research (online and in person) about this :)

    OuiGo were mad cheap but dont accept bikes; SNCF branded ones do but in bin bags and dismantled; have tried this before and it works fine.

    a 3h 48 min journey that will cover 400+ miles was just under €100, really puts UK trains in perspective, if you dont need to take the bike; OuiGo for same journey was €60.

  • i am sure you have, just stating the obvious that it's not all rosy out there either. london is actually pretty good, only not to the west and at peak times.
    If i lived in paris i could only dream to have a thameslink equivalent that takes my family and 3 bikes 40km away in a hour with no booking.

    but i maintain for you : the cheapestest way is to ride/train out to newhaven and ride/train to paris. ( no need to book )

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