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  • much more nebulous out here in Canader as a lot of the immigrant population came to escape that very thing.

    I don't know so much about Canada, but USians say the same thing and yet they absolutely do have social classes and social mobility problems. Partly that's hidden (or at least muddled) by the legacy of slavery, partly by their widespread unwillingness to even admit it's a thing. Class is a big factor in Trump's core base and that's one of the reasons Democrats find it so difficult to counter it

  • Oh I'm not saying there isn't any classism out here, just figuring out where one starts* and the other ends is tough, especially because in Canada we're such a mixed bag and since the sixties or so different migrant groups have been more or less (depending on the government of the day) encouraged to retain their identity compared to the melting pot approach more common in the US.

    *the middle class

  • Trump's core base are lower-middle-class though, aren't they? Mom-and-Pop business owners masquerading as working class people.

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