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You’d need to stop fucking up our coefficient and fucking make it to Europe properly to worry about them.

Racist fans, cheating players, pathetic manager, fuck Atleti.

? iirc celtic have contributed most to scotland's coefficient (both club and country coefficients) in the relevant five seasons for next year's UCL

The other mob aren’t great either. But they’ve contributed more.

not over the relevant five seasons for next year's UCL they haven't (which celtic should hopefully be in automatically)

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This made me lol

wtf was that air headbutt?

yeah fuck Athletico. was listening on the radio at work. i actually cheered when final whistle went. so glad they went out.

Whilst Atleti are truly the ebodiment of shithouses and deserved to go out of the competition last night, I can't help but admire what Simeone has done at the club. 10-11 years ago they were largely an irrelevance as far as winning stuff was concerned. In the time he's been there they've won la liga (in peak Barca/Real years, too) twice (?), The Copa Del Rey, been in a couple of champion's league finals won the europa league, I think. He's made them a top level team... of bastards.

Big up Kili! (My mum's team).

I don't like this idea of winning at any cost - yes, it means more victories overall but at what cost? Who can be proud of supporting a team that so actively employs those 'dark arts' as the Guardian call them?
They can play some amazing free flowing attacking football when they want, but the rest of the time, I can't even imagine what it must be like when your first thought is conning the ref.

It's not as if it's only them. Look at how much collapsing to the ground after the lightest (or no) touch there is and rolling around as if mortally wounded then springing back up again after the yellow card is dished out you see in football.

Yep, I agree!
I also want to see more holding onto people at corners penalised, and remember when we outlawed surrounding the ref? How long did that last?

Do Atletico make more fouls or end more careers than Arsenal though?

My son made the excellent point that Atletico show there are different ways to play the game, yes it's ugly, but do we want every team full of indentikit tiki-taka playing alice-band wearing pretty boys?

I understand this viewpoint, but I think it's a point made more easily by someone accustomed to seeing their team win stuff. I also feel like Atleti's style is kind of in it's death throes as a functioning football philosphy. I'm sure they didn't used to be quite this bad. Ultimately is it any more ugly than a team getting success by spending billions to have an embarassment of world-class players filling every position, finding all available loopholes to avoid FFP, having the ability to pull numerous £60-100m players off their bench (And they get five fucking subs next season)? I know you need an excellent plan and excellent coaching, but the level of money at the top of the game is eye-watering and the playing field is not level.

this is a fair point - but I think it is more ugly, because I think a lot of the mega rich clubs do it as well as all the FFP bollocks!

Wild miss this.

Burnley don’t play Tiki Taka or Gegenpress yet still aren’t absolute scumbags who bring the game into disrepute.

Also pretty boy statement is just weird.

@cozey and @LePaton is like watching 2 bald men fight over a comb.

I’m bald as shit so I’ll accept it.

This is true, there ia a need for a villan。 and agree its good to see different styles.I its the violence and endangering opposition that is what annoyed me.

Dyche sacked by Burnley.

Surely madness with only 8 games left

Ridic

Shame there are only 3 relegation spots when at least five teams deserve to go down