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  • Whilst Atleti are truly the ebodiment of shithouses and deserved to go out of the competition last night, I can't help but admire what Simeone has done at the club. 10-11 years ago they were largely an irrelevance as far as winning stuff was concerned. In the time he's been there they've won la liga (in peak Barca/Real years, too) twice (?), The Copa Del Rey, been in a couple of champion's league finals won the europa league, I think. He's made them a top level team... of bastards.

  • I don't like this idea of winning at any cost - yes, it means more victories overall but at what cost? Who can be proud of supporting a team that so actively employs those 'dark arts' as the Guardian call them?
    They can play some amazing free flowing attacking football when they want, but the rest of the time, I can't even imagine what it must be like when your first thought is conning the ref.

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