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My brevet ones move around a lot, I found the material just doesn't stay put like the pro team bibs do and they seem to fit different every time I put them on. I stopped wearing them once I switched to DHB (surprised by how much I like them). I really miss the practicality of the pockets though, T shirt rides were great. A friend has the same pair and loves them so it's tricky. I'd say they're worth a shot
Are the Rapha Cargos shit then? I have an unworn pair in the cupboard for this year