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Can we drop the Tanky Left anti US BS and go back to discussing the actual Russian invasion of Ukraine?
I'm not a fucking Tankie to be clear.
@dau brought up some good points that expand my perspective as an American, thank you. I'm generally very fixated on how shitty my own government is and has been, and it's helpful to hear more EU perspectives on Russia.
Also, I learned recently the Russo-Ukraine war has been going for over 8-years
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Actually it's very positive to free yourself from nationalism. It allows you to hold your own country and your allies to account. We wouldn't have slave trade reparations without it. It also allows us to see things from the point of view of our enemy, which helps us to defeat him. Perhaps you don't know the saying "those that fail to learn from history are doomed to repeat it". I guarantee that officers in our forces have it drummed into them. It's also grossly mendacious and self-defeating to accuse someone of war crimes without admitting that all sides commit them. When this is all over, Nato desperately needs to emerge with moral authority. If we do, it will actually prevent some wars and save lives.
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Totally agree.... with the added dimension that we should not forget other wars/military operations or whatever they are called going on at the moment. A barbaric bombing of Yemen civilians by the murderous Saudi regime we are happily buying oil and gas springs to mind.
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Can we drop the Tanky Left anti US BS and go back to discussing the actual Russian invasion of Ukraine?
All this bullshit about historical nonsense and past nationalistic grievances when the prime actors at that time are well dead and buried (mentioning Texus WTF that’s 160 years ago?!) is ridiculous and exactly the kind of dangerous propaganda that Putin felt gave him right to attack Ukraine. Get in the real modern world people.