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• #71927
It seems like you're saying that as it's (possibly) legal, it's fine.
I don't think it'll pass the sniff test with the electorate
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• #71928
Two very different things, of course - what is legal and what is acceptable to the electorate.
I think this is part of a series of events and issues that have very firmly put Sunak into the "former next prime minister" club.
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• #71929
You know what, maybe I've spent too much of my working life interacting with foreign HNWIs and I have a warped view.
Without much knowledge on the facts, it strikes me that she is an obvious candidate for non-dom status. I definitely don't accept that twitter dudes view that where you kids currently go to school indicates an intention to permanently remain. That holds even less weight when you consider what a massive export our public school system is.
So overall I don't even think this is a letter vs spirit of the law thing. The reason I keep bringing up pensions/ISA/EIS/VCT is because they are other eg of types of tax avoidance the government actually endorses for policy reasons.
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• #71930
I think this is part of a series of events and issues that have very firmly put Sunak into the "former next prime minister" club.
Which is the sole aim.
They dealt with the (Pork Pie) rebellion now comes the consolidation.
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• #71931
This non dom thing does not necessarily affect ‘the wealthy’ as mentioned. I know people who worked abroad (Iraq, Afghan etc) who were able to avoid tax in the U.K. as they were out of the country and this exempted them. They were well paid but not ‘wealthy’ as such. As long as they proved their main residence was abroad it worked.
Now the avoidance part. They flew directly into the UK on some of their trips home - this showed they were abroad most of the time. But, when they wanted to come home and there not to be an actual record in the UK - they flew to Dublin and came into the UK via the land border. Avoidance/evasion?? I pick evasion. -
• #71932
Not this furrin' it's nice when rich but I'm an ordinary payroll wage worker.
I find it bizarre to think it's ok (as you say it is legal) doing this when being married to someone in the UK government.
Of course, many in government use all sorts of ways to legally not pay tax. In that sense this attack is politically motivated.
Not that I feel to sorry for them. Could have seen that coming.
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• #71933
what a massive export our public school system is.
Exporting massive cunts?
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• #71935
They aren’t though. Non-dom status isn’t non-resident status - it means you can be here (resident) all year, but you ‘are kind of from somewhere else really’ so don’t pay tax on overseas stuff (but do pay a fee to have that status - hence why this is for rich people only).
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• #71936
This is residence not domicile - if you work somewhere else, you can be taxed there based on residence. The non-dom thing is different.
And yes, that’s evasion (i.e. criminal, rather than legal but frowned upon)
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• #71937
Avoidance/evasion?? I pick evasion.
I believe the phrase is 'maintaining one's affairs in a tax efficient manner'
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• #71938
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• #71939
Professor Richard Murphy, that Twitter dude?
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• #71940
Another leak that Sunak vetoed plans for a much higher energy bill rebate. 'They' really want him out of the leadership picture. Tinfoil hat theory - Johnson is about to be hit with a big fine and/or full partygate findings are going to look worse than expected (party in his flat etc), so he's moving to make sure there is no obvious alternative candidate and he can limp on. Look out for some anti-Truss briefings shortly.
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• #71941
Yeah. That one.
I don't want to get into a section by section discussion on his tweets, and I recognise the benefit he is providing by explaining to people that you don't automatically become a non-dom because you're foreign. Most people will obviously read Murthy's statement as PR management, but it's still worthwhile for those who don't.
However, I think many of his points can be argued both ways. Sunak's job is not necessarily secure. My point on education stands. Given her family I find it hard to believe that her income isn't primarily from India. Maybe things have changed in the last few years, but ime when HMRC's Specialist Investigations unit has a will they are perfectly well resourced and happy to leverage other departmental resources (ie VAT) to achieve their goals. But obviously on that I would cautiously* defer to his knowledge.
*given that he is not impartial and works in academia
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• #71942
If that were the case I'd expect to see a similar campaign against Truss.
That she's escaping such treatment suggests that this briefing campaign is - well, cui bono?
What I expect we'll see from Johnson is something that attacks Wallace - who, against a background of the current cabinet, looks like an Olympian right now.
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• #71943
Watching the tories eat themselves is the only positive thing about our current political landscape.
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• #71944
Are Labour staying fairly quiet about Mrs Sunaks tax status to save Stephen Kinnocks blushes?
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• #71945
Are Labour staying fairly quiet
How to you assess that Labour are being fairly quiet about it? Most of the shadow cabinet and Starmer have commented about it haven't they?
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• #71946
The opposite of keeping quiet surely.
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• #71947
“Not impartial” - is anyone?
And may not be your intention but it sounds like you’re suggesting that there’s an argument to “move on as nothing to see here”.
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• #71948
. Sunak's job is not necessarily secure.
What as MP for one of the safest conservative seats in the UK?
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• #71949
But what would he do without his extra credit assignments?
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• #71950
It is but will he hang around for long if he doesn’t get the top job? Combination of disaster of a spring statement and this non-dom stuff are making PM aspirations look much less likely.
Jeez. Letter of the law aside (which may or may not have been crossed, I'm certainly no tax lawyer) the whole thing does absolutely stink of double standards and laughing at the little people who are mug enough not to play the system.