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• #2027
"Have they weaponised cats, or catified weapons?"
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• #2028
-How long did you drive through Ukraine?
-3 days
-And in 3 days you lost 8 tanks from a company [of 10 ] without engaging in combat?
-Yes
-How many kilometers did you drive?
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• #2029
Nice jumper. Well jel.
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• #2030
He literally looks like a Cos model.
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• #2031
Rosvgardia troops, supposed to be for internal security only, are being ordered to go to Ukraine. Some are refusing, and being sacked. They are suing for wrongful dismissal. https://twitter.com/maryilyushina/status/1507008105342590995
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• #2032
Putin isn’t afraid of his military but if the security apparatus turns on him watch out.
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• #2033
I’ve read several articles about this now but nothing on how this is progressing. With 10,000 units involved you’d expect that this counter attack could be a decisive moment.
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• #2034
Medvedev is such a sassy little bitch isn't he? Yesterday he supposedly stated publicly that the decision to invade was made solely by Putin. Living his entire life in total obedience, then turns the moment he eyes an opportunity to replace his boss.
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• #2035
Medvedev isn't the only politician who is word perfect to 'Lose Yourself'.
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• #2036
Anyone found any articles about the anonymous hack and leak?
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• #2037
Can Biden's handlers get him on script before he gets us all incinerated?
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• #2038
What's up with nuclear war fear mongering in western Europe? My friend from Sweden is basically shitting her pants but Sweden is as irrelevant to Russia just as is the UK.
Nuclear weapon is just a deterrent and it works like a charm for Putin.
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• #2039
I think NATO should leave some doubt in Putin's mind about their response, but they need to do it in a considered way.
In the last couple of days Biden has compared the situation in Ukraine to Tiananmen Square (an odd analogy and likely to alienate the CCP who are needed to resolve this); suggested to US troops that they are going into Ukraine (they aren't); and called for regime change in Russia (which was then reversed by a white house statement). It looks like blundering rather than a considered 'mad man' strategy, but it is very hard to tell the difference these days.
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• #2040
suggested to US troops that they are going into Ukraine
Interesting take on this. I interpreted his words as telling youmg soldiers that they'd see with their own eyes when they go to a war zone, rather than specifically Ukraine. Most of the clips and quotes online miss Biden talking about his family experiences with going to war just before the quote, context is everything. I agree with you though, its really poor and vague messaging that is not appropriate and easily accidentally or deliberately misunderstood. The fact they have to issue a correction or explanation says it all
I think we can all agree that being POTUS and accidentally seeming to call for a regime change is quite a howler though.
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• #2041
Not helpful messaging. He wasn’t wrong, though.
Also, the Kremlin spokesperson who said:
“That's not for Biden to decide - the president of Russia is elected by Russians"
…at the same time that Russia has mercenaries slithering around Kyiv, trying to assassinate Zelenskyy? Hilarious.
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• #2042
What's up with nuclear war fear mongering in western Europe?
Because it's a genuine threat. I'd be willing to agree that the chances of a nuclear attack from Russia is small, but it's definitely not nil. A couple of weeks before the invasion I snapped at someone in the news thread (can't remember who), who speculated that the threats of an invasion was just a charade. But that definitely happened.
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• #2043
People in the West keep hoping for the mothers of Russian soldiers to speak up against the war—and some have. But some mothers, even those whose sons have died in the war, are vehemently pro war—and vocally against even Ukrainian civilians.
People in the West keep hoping for the mothers of Russian soldiers to speak up against the war—and some have. But some mothers, even those whose sons have died in the war, are vehemently pro war—and vocally against even Ukrainian civilians."I hate them all," the mother of a dead Russian soldier says of Ukrainians. "I have no pity even for the civilians." The war was necessary—"we had no choice"—because "if we didn't bomb them, they would've bombed us." "My son fought for us, for Russia...he didn't die in vain."
Not everyone sees the world as we do, not everyone is immune to a powerful propaganda machine that's grown ever more powerful over two decades, not everyone reacts to death and loss in the ways we would expect. Let's be careful not to confuse our wishes for reality.
https://twitter.com/juliaioffe/status/1507909702075748358
Relevant cartoon from the comments
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• #2044
I'd add to that, sending a missile towards a non-NATO country such as Sweden or Georgia could be exactly the kind of thing Putin would regard as a level-headed and rational move.
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• #2045
What's up with nuclear war fear mongering in western Europe?
Medvedev spelt out again yesterday the four criteria under which Russia can use nuclear weapons, one of them is existential threat to Russia which is why Biden calling for regime change is not helpful. It is all posturing but leaves little room for diplomacy.
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• #2046
Azerbaijan is probably doing its best to get to the top of that list
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• #2047
And while I am on a good rant on a Sunday morning; earlier in this thread someone linked to a Twitter thread by some armchair specialist who just knew that a nuclear attack wouldn't happen. There would be so many steps between Putin issuing a nuclear command to someone actually firing a missile that the plan would be thwarted. Cooler heads would prevail so to speak.
But Putin has been one of the world's most powerful men for two decades and counting. He has had plenty of time to remove whatever obstacles there might have been at some point. The nuclear chain of command at this point is whatever he wants it to be.
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• #2048
Good point. Pick a sparsely populated area of Azerbaijan (if there is one?) and send a rocket there. I'd wager the chance of that happening to be more than 10%
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• #2049
thread by some armchair specialist who just knew that a nuclear attack wouldn't happen.
There was also a thread posted here written by somebody who had worked with Putin for a few years, its not an entirely armchair opinion.
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• #2050
The Making of Vladimir Putin
https://www.nytimes.com/2022/03/26/world/europe/vladimir-putin-russia.html
Russians have no chance