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  • Cheers, yeah I value all those things - especially for my wife and kid, but I also can’t magic up vast quantities money out of my ass so I need to be realistic. Looking again at the tern bikes the HSD might actually work better (read ‘be cheaper and still work’) as only one kid needs hauling, would be nice to have the option for two though and the HSD is still 4 grand.

  • Benno remidemi or boost also worth a look. Boost is a direct competitor to the gsd, but a chunk cheaper (relative), better quality accessories and features like being able to remove rear wheel without being too unbolt various accessories (check cargo thread for my recent rant), they ride well, but they have some really silly pitfalls.
    Yuba, kona and surly all do decent budget long tails too

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