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Cheers, yeah I value all those things - especially for my wife and kid, but I also can’t magic up vast quantities money out of my ass so I need to be realistic. Looking again at the tern bikes the HSD might actually work better (read ‘be cheaper and still work’) as only one kid needs hauling, would be nice to have the option for two though and the HSD is still 4 grand.
Tonts-
Benno remidemi or boost also worth a look. Boost is a direct competitor to the gsd, but a chunk cheaper (relative), better quality accessories and features like being able to remove rear wheel without being too unbolt various accessories (check cargo thread for my recent rant), they ride well, but they have some really silly pitfalls.
Yuba, kona and surly all do decent budget long tails too -
@Tonts this looks good
BrickMan
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Yep the Rad ones look like great value but as @BrickMan said, the parts on it are quite cheap but you could easily upgrade to decent bits for maybe £200-ish
As a Tern rider they stand out at accessories and better parts, totally depends if you value that or not, they are expensive but not necessarily bad value. Overall its a compelling package.
Also test ride if you can, just test ride a GSD if you cant find Rad anywhere, they look pretty similar.