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I don't think that most Ukrainians would see the return of (at least) the territory invaded during this conflict as a "concession" from the Russians. Even the withdrawal of support from militias in the Donbas would barely be a concession, it's just falling into line with basic, modern, functional statehood i.e., not laying claim to the territory of other states.
There's a strange undertone in this thread of deploring the Stop the War stance, while still seeming to know exactly what is best for Ukrainians. It may not be possible to reclaim Crimea and parts of the Donbas from effective Russian control, but it's still abhorrent to say "it's ok, you've only got to give up these additional sections of your country that have just been seized."
Like it or not, international pressure will be very hard to ignore, since sanctions seem to be effective in that they're doing severe damage to the Russian economy. Third-parties including the EU and the US, could still keep these in place, even if Ukraine and Russia did negotiate a cease-fire, but it's likely that future actions on that front would be discussed with Ukraine.
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I am a member of Stop the War and have been since Iraq so I certainly don't deplore their stance - I fully support it. I'd be surprised if anyone who actually reads what they say and isn't a nutter deplores it.
I want to see an end to the conflict asap. Russia has got Crimea. The people who live there seem, as far as we can tell, to be happy with that. Putin did say in his rather odd discussion with his spy chief that he didn't see taking the autonomous regions as being on the table.
We need to get to negotiations and see what Russia actually does want, and find an acceptable solution. Nobody knows what it would be yet. But the only way to end the war quickly is to give Putin a way out that allows him to save face. I'd rather that was permitted than war continued with people killed and lives ruined.
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That, for the Ukranian people, is the trap they could fall into. Essentially that involes the West using them as pawns to be sacrificed to extract concessions from the Russians.