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  • There are also jump cuts in there and she comes across like some loony villain from the Hunger Games.

  • That is on the Stop the War page, so I think we can now assume that is what she meant to say.

    Shocking as I find it that she was suggesting the partition of Ukraine, I found the next speaker (Richard Sakwa) even more shocking. He explicitly supports the foreign policy statements of Xi Jinping and Putin.

    IMO, the reason you see these points of view platformed at Stop the War events is because they are opposed to the model of market-based democracy, so they can't understand why anyone (i.e. the Ukrainian people), would fight for it.

    I'm not trying to silence their speech or narrow the parameters of debate. I'm just saying my opinion is that they are profoundly wrong on the history and the politics.

  • Maybe she meant the separation of the Ukraine from the USSR ?

  • Shocking as I find it that she was suggesting the partition of Ukraine

    I watched the video and didn't interpret anything she said as suggesting the partitioning of Ukraine. Weird how one video can be interpreted so differently by different people. Not a dig at you at all. Perhaps it helps that I don't know much about Diane Abbott's views on anything and have only really been aware of the weirder more racist and misgynistic stuff that has been levelled her way.

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