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• #1077
Good article on the tendency that an element of the left has to view geopolitics through a very narrow anti-western imperialism lens:
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2022/mar/02/russian-propaganda-anti-imperialist-left-vladimir-putin -
• #1078
The oligarchs seem to be desperately trying to create some space between them and Putin for self preservation purposes.
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• #1079
Thread along similar lines.
https://twitter.com/IbrahimAlAssil/status/1498357325060579328
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• #1080
We all have an idea but that does not change that its a good thing if theres a large chunk of money going to the victims of the invasion of ukraine.
Chelsea valued at 2.5 billion or similar and has a debt to himself at around 1.5. The club could ofc have a lot more debts elsewhere etc but i think he is smarter than saying he will give all the profits to the victims if its gonna amount to next to nothing knowing how that will make him look.
But we will see.
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• #1081
Any once else noted that the oligarchs seem to be moving their jets back to Russian.
There is a guy on twitter who is highlighting the freely available data.
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• #1082
Fuck me, that's quite a lot, isn't it, all things considered.
It is, didn’t think history repeating itself for Russia, given in the past they lost a staggering amount of lives in conflicts (the Siege of Leningrad come to mind).
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• #1083
Bullshit. It's a PR move.
Where did his billions come from? Have you asked that?
Of course it is, but surely better a PR move like this than selling up and pissing off somewhere warm
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• #1084
Where did his billions come from? Have you asked that?
I have. Its a rabbit hole I lost myself down for quite a few weeks about ten years ago.
From memory, the timeline goes like this:
Army. > Travelling perfume salesman. > mechanic> doll making > ???????? > commodity trader for a few months> ??????????? > Owner of Sibneft Bank.
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• #1085
I'm incredulous that anyone thinks a penny of this money will go to genuine humanitarian causes in Ukraine.
Abramovich has stolen, lied, cheated and bribed his way to a fortune under Yeltsin and Putin. How can you believe a word he says?
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• #1086
Wording of his statement just says 'victims'. I wonder if he classes himself as such?
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• #1087
It was only a few days ago where he was going to pass the club into the 'stewardship and care' of the Chelsea Foundation trustees. That was a bullshit PR move that has now been quickly forgotten.
Like you, I'm incredulous that anyone thinks this is genuine, it's so obviously a cynical PR ploy to divert attention away from him and his links to Putin.
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• #1088
The quote from the statement I saw said it was going to “victims of the conflict in Ukraine”. It could technically just be going to the Russian army.
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• #1089
Sibneft was an oil company not a bank. It's now Gazprom.
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• #1090
I suppose you could believe him if the money gets to Ukraine.
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• #1091
Sibneft was an oil company not a bank. It's now Gazprom.
Yup, typo. Banks and sanctions on the brain this week.
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• #1092
What a cynical bunch you lot are
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• #1093
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• #1094
Any once else noted that the oligarchs seem to be moving their jets back to Russian.
What's the theory behind this? Got a link to the tweets?
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• #1095
The quote from the statement I saw said it was going to “victims of the conflict in Ukraine”. It could technically just be going to the Russian army.
This - remember, the story his boss is pushing is that this war was pushed on Russia by Ukrainian aggression. They're the 'victims'.
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• #1096
Biden said last night the US would work with its western allies to seize oligarch yachts, apartments and jets, why leave your jet somewhere vulnerable
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• #1097
The story, one of many that have appeared
https://www.euronews.com/next/2022/03/01/where-are-the-russian-oligarchs-the-teen-who-annoyed-elon-musk-is-now-tracking-their-privahttps://mobile.twitter.com/ruoligarchjets for the twitter
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• #1098
Have they told their allies this? The UK won't seize shit - it might result in awkward conversations in the tennis club.
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• #1099
Looks like confirmation Kherson has fallen and what that might mean for the next phase
https://twitter.com/mschwirtz/status/1499114918661996550
Bullshit. It's a PR move.
Where did his billions come from? Have you asked that?