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  • I'm not sure what thread to put this in so thought I'd try here.

    I should possibly buy a safe, not for anything particularly valuable but would be good to have somewhere (preferably fireproof) for documents, passports, credit cards, backup hdd, etc

    First I guess, any tips on what safe to buy? Second, the more relevant question for here, how do you stop burglars just buggering off with them? I assume the best option is to bolt them into a brick wall? If so, how do you make that look not shit?

  • A proper safe would be so heavy, that any burglars would need your help (plus some sort of roller arrangement and an LGV with a tail lift) to get it out of your house.

  • I suppose it depends on what size you need, but I've got one of these for work docs and stuff.

    https://www.safe.co.uk/products/yale-value-safe-office.html

    It has holes accessed from inside the safe to screw into whatever you're attaching it to. I put it in a cupboard and screwed it into the wall behind. It was such a pain in the .... putting the screws in from inside the safe that I doubt I'll ever be able to remove it with the door open. I suppose with enough determination you could extract it with the door shut but it would have to be a very determined burglar.

  • you want to be aware of override keys on these things. they're super easy to pick.

    you would normally bolt a safe to the wall from the inside but even so, <5 secs and you can get in anyway with a little skill. you're better off doing something like lifting a floorboard or making a hole in a wall somewhere random and hiding your stuff in there. my dad used to hide valuables in the fridge when they went away as he figured no burglar would look there.

  • Have a look on YouTube - I’ve seen a vid re. Safes and places to hide things which was enlightening. Voids in door frames, false switches etc. seem like good places.

  • An awkward space will help prevent someone running off with it, but it's more likely they'll know how to get in.

    The main thing is having it somewhere discrete. It will be heavy so you'll need to think about that.

    imo fireproof is a must. You could always buy a couple of fireproof document bags and then make some sort of hidy-hole lined with something fire resistant. But I think for the hassle and cost, you're better off just getting a proper safe.

    There are also lots of hidden container things you can get. You want to search for drug stash boxes, as that market sector has a much better range of modified household objects, than people hiding their personal valuables.

  • Big safes are a danger, if they break in and you say you wont open they will just hurt you. Depends what you want to store in it. I know a few people that have been put off.

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