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Did you see Owen Jones suggesting Ukraine should be a 'buffer zone'? He was called out and forced into an apology for it, but the fact he said it in the first place is indicative of the mindset.
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Did you see Owen Jones suggesting Ukraine should be a 'buffer zone'? He was called out and forced into an apology for it, but the fact he said it in the first place is indicative of the mindset.
I didn't see that, no. But:
So Owen Jones is the person who you meant when you said the far left don't believe Ukraine has a right to self-determination and should be a vassal to Putin?
Cool. If that's his position he's wrong. Let's call him out on it. In fact, sounds like people did and he made his position clearer and apologised.
We did go over this. And I'll make this point again: No one is barring them from seeking to join. The position is that no one has a sovereign right to be a member of Nato (or any other international organisation). This is a position shared by many people on the left and the right and the centre. It is a sane position. It is not a position unique to STW.
But that's a different conversation. You claimed there are people on the "far left" who don't "recognise the people of Ukraine have a right to self determination" and think Ukraine should "simply accept being a vassal state of Putin." I don't think this is a particularly widespread view and it's annoying to keep reading it spewed as fact.