• Yes i don't disagree, tube shape is a big factor, cdfs have nice skinny stays, and most alloy frames have large tubes. maybe crockett/checkpoint is one of the few alloy ones that has it all

  • The 2021 Arkose has very slim seat stays, hydroformed top tube, clean welds, triple butted, etc. It’s really impressive.

  • the enduring arkose... aka get an arkose

  • Does look good, and they went TA front/rear. Shame they don't have my size in the frameset only option, it's a tidy price if you're an XL but I lie much lower down in the size range

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