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are standert really that "cool"? i dunno why but they come across a bit try-hard/instagram-friendly to me... similar to dosnoventa when they were all the rage bitd
I would probably go for the frame developed by a team with significant engineering pedigree in steel frames (fairlight). yes biased but my two cents :-)
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On the face of it, I would go for stainless and standert have the cool factor over fairlight but in reality without knowing the tubing wall thicknesses and butt profiles, 853 might be "better". I'd still take the standert though and £1700 for a stainless frame is pretty good.