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  • Any thoughts on Secan 2.5 vs Standert Erdgeschoss? Apart from tyre clearance and Reynolds 853 vs Taiwanese Stainless steel. What would you choose?

  • On the face of it, I would go for stainless and standert have the cool factor over fairlight but in reality without knowing the tubing wall thicknesses and butt profiles, 853 might be "better". I'd still take the standert though and £1700 for a stainless frame is pretty good.

  • I don't like the scalloped fork on that Standert, and I find the purple secan pretty compelling. The fairlight is cheaper and they give a tonne of information about the design and materials. Something I've only read about recently is fairlight use a greater BB drop to feel more 'in' the bike - I haven't ridden enough bikes to compare, but I like my Faran which has it also.

    Standert have that berlin cool vibe, but feels (to me) like you're paying for that.

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