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  • New tern gsd mk2.
    Its somehow worse than mk1 to work on.

    In order to remove rear wheel, for you know, a puncture.
    Have to take off the kid tent, the brackets, then the axle still won't come out so need to remove the big black metal step that goes over the frames permanent step (why is there two?), but to take that off, there is a 13mm nut trapped behind one of the mounts for the kickstand, so have to loosen kickstand and allow bike to wobble around on some pieces of wood? Or you need a hoist.
    This isn't for real?
    Imagine some poor fam out in the wild trying to do this with kids. Almost no cargo is easy to change a tyre on, but this new mk2 gsd takes the cake!

    Thought maybe you can do this whilst it's sat on its arse, as per marketing. Can't get to bolts in this position.

    Also bike is 3 weeks old, 150 miles on it. "new" kickstand already has play and sticks in a halfway position?

    On positive news, saw a "triobike" yesterday, close copy of a bullitt with a brose motor. Rides solid, super close in feel to a Douse. Build quality seemed ok, time will tell if they know how to make a frame, but overall was impressed, price also good.

  • I just make it vertical, disconnect Rohloff, have a long 5mm Allen, loosen the pulley, remove bolts from hub, out it pops

    this is with a full stormbox/shield setup too

    wayyyyyyyyy easier than bullitt with Alfine I had

  • I've seen and worked on just about every cargo. GSD ride well and do what they are mean't to well, can't deny that. The mk2 suspension fork is kinda daft IMO, suspension seatpost yes though. Lights with high beam and brake function linked to the levers, brilliant (though this isn't Tern's system, just 1st bike I've seen it done well on).

    What I find absolutely fucking mental. Is the Mk1 you could remove a Rohloff or any other IGH or regular derailleur system rear wheel, without having to remove a whole bunch of accessories. The Mk2 is a massive backwards step in this regard that honestly defies belief. I think only with Rohloff on mk2 can you get rear wheel off in the normal way (tilt on its back like the mk1). Anyone got an account with Tern, any info as to why they have done this? Seems either an act of insanity, or a genuine oversight (but then they blasted on and made tens of thousands of them anyways?).

    Also access to WONKY rear brake caliper (mount needed to face a bit off it, except face tool (Park and VAR) do not fit on the rear post due to frame, so had to hand file it is limited. Obviously not something you have to do very often, but even on UA (my other fav bikes, which have honestly increased their overall quality and ability to be worked on massively in the last few years, so props to them), adjusting the rear disc caliper position is easier.

    Bullitt with IGH are easy enough (and same for Omnium, Douze, R+M bikes), pop something in to remove the cable. Undo 2 bolts, loosen adjusters with fingers (no tools required) lift bike up or tip on its side, bob, is, your, uncle. On some of them depending on tyre choice you have to remove 2x 4mm allen bolts to loosen the mudguard.

    This IS a rant. As a retailer and a tech, and having been a product engineer and manager for near 10 years, it makes US, the people you can actually get to and vent at, look bad. When its not us that are pushing companies to make these daft decisions.

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