• What's the forum budget steel gravel bike these days? I was set (and may still get) the Wonder Camino frameset, but after faffing about building a mates bike with internal cable routing and swearing the night away, I want to go with something simple and externally routed with tyre clearance for 700x45 as minimum.

  • That Brother looks nice. I’d be looking for a Pipedream ALICE though. Super nice. Oh and a fork with external cable routing as well. I hate the internals on my sequoia, it really made trying flat bars a chore and a half.

  • It is, I was going with that to keep my budget low, but now I'm thinking going steel, paying a little more for less faff and more chuckability.
    @Chaley Nearly got an Alice off the forum some years back, regret not getting it then.

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