Owning your own home

love it!

Jingoism architecture harking back to the good old days

Yes, maybe, but the context makes pretty much everything else impossible / an eyesore.

These examples from the 2021 Riba shortlist, both in Peckham, are interesting

Corner House

Slot House

That slot house doesn’t look all that credible for anyone who has clothes they like to hang up.

I'm not sure I agree, and I believe a decent architect/client could have designed a building that was truthful in its design whilst sympathetic to the wider area. There is an adjoining post-war building adjoining that has a certain charm although we're all conditioned to see pre-war housing as the visual gold standard and anything post-war as a blight. Above is the equivalent of a faux-Tudor house in zone 2/3.

I liked house-within-a-house

Yes - that was good as well.

round the corner from this one: https://goo.gl/maps/MdgF4KbkwobcNYdm7

Lewisham has done a decent job for small sites (infills): https://lewishamsmallsites.co.uk/

the only lewisham content I'm interested in

Without regulation there is a low of cowboy-ry that goes around: https://goo.gl/maps/3UbLFdTSMpYvhSY28

I believe a decent architect/client could have designed a building that was truthful in its design whilst sympathetic to the wider area.

I agree with deep enough pockets and a strong will it could be done. I think the balance of forces at play in this particular context would have ruled it out though.

Nice link. RCKA (who were involved with that document) do quite a lot of research about infill sites and the London housing crisis. Below is an insta-ban from the golf club thread about the 'golf-belt' and how it could provide homes for up to 300,000 people.

https://golfbelt.russellcurtis.co.uk/
Guardian link

I was thinking that, while it is great to build quality houses on small sites, it is not the solution to the housing shortage.

This is shot in catford: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=orJSJGHjBLI&ab_channel=EdSheeran

Fundamentally lack of design vision is a universal issue.

UK specific issue is the cultural wanking over victorian houses that needs to stop. They are shit.

Also as @hoefla said there is not enough housing stock so people are stuck with these.

UK specific issue is the cultural wanking over victorian houses that needs to stop

This is very much London specific imo

If we solved the supply/ demand mismatch and moved the cultural obsession away from old housing stock... would we still keep the old housing stock? It is perhaps adequate rather than shit from a basic functionality perspective.

cultural wanking over victorian houses that needs to stop

+1

Georgian of gtfo

Yes, no more victorian/edwardian reno accounts without them disclosing their energy bills

Why did you choose a Victorian-era house?

One of the big appeals about older buildings is the room proportions, especially height.

They are just much nicer spaces to be.

If developers faced criminal sanctions for building those fucking ridiculous sized rooms the world certain bits of the UK would be a better place.

That said you do have the ball ache of working out how to position anything with a couple of doors, fireplaces, rads, and massive fucking windows taking up all the spare wall space.

lack of stock

I lived here for five years, until we sold last year. I got used to being looked down on by parents from my son's school, who mostly lived in Victorian terraced houses. One of them memorably referred to it as a 'yuppy prison'.

Before that, we rented here for five years. That was pre-kids, so I don't know how we would have been judged by snidey London parents.

Both were far superior to the various period houses and flats I have rented in London over the years. If I could find a 3/4 bedroom house in a development like either of these, I would go for it. Except leasehold is a nightmare in the UK (service charges, ground rent, EWS1, etc, etc).