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  • This whole thing is a mix of semantics and PR.

    But this;

    Why does opposing a war in Ukraine/calling for all parties to work towards de-escalation mean you support Putin?

    is not what Starmer is referencing. The context is;

    His comments, in an article for The Guardian, came as Corbyn addressed a Stop The War rally in London titled “No war in Ukraine - Stop NATO expansion.”

    It's in the Corbyn thread because it's a slight derail from Corbyn speaking at the rally and because he's the deputy president of the Stop the War coalition.

    I guess you could also say it forms part of one of the many problems with Corbyn. Personally I voted for him based on the manifesto - in particular the green policies and small business policies. However, to be frank, I was always concerned by his risk to national security. Ironically, I weighed up Johnson as likely to be a greater risk.

  • is not what Starmer is referencing. The context is;

    Sorry, posted another response before yours, but I dropped in a couple of Starmer quotes that seem to be insinuating opposition to war is support for Russia in one form or another.

    It's in the Corbyn thread because it's a slight derail from Corbyn speaking at the rally and because he's the deputy president of the Stop the War coalition.

    Anyone actually heard/seen/read what he said? I've not. Instead we've got a guilty by association situation (not a new criticism of Corbyn, tbf). But in this case, I don't think being affiliated with STW is anything anyone should be embarrassed about (at the moment - if they did come out supporting Russian aggression I'd reformulate my position).

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