Increase in Prison Sentence for Dangerous Driving

Crossed wires, I'd agreed with you from the start about justification but the point of view I was missing.

Hm, strange, has this really not been posted yet?

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/8446545.stm

I can't seem to find anything by searching.

Hm, strange, has this really not been posted yet?

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/8446545.stm

I can't seem to find anything by searching.

https://www.lfgss.com/post1141026-3827.html :)

hilarious .. £180,000 :D

^

Too bloody right.
Someone with that kind of money, a normal fine is considered a shrapnel of a penny to their wage.
Hit them where it hurts. They won't do it again surely.

http://www.lfgss.com/post1141026-3827.html :)

Ah, ta, that's the last place where I would have expected it. I don't read that thread.

Ah, ta, that's the last place where I would have expected it. I don't read that thread.

you should, it can be quite funny ;)

you should, it can be quite funny ;)

I'm sure it can. It's just when I first looked at it, I saw that video of the bloke trying to kick the wall in and his leg getting crushed. That put me off. :(

oh jeez .. i remember that video :o kid was asking for it, though ;)

It was certainly extraordinarily stupid behaviour!

Not sure where to put this, so how about a Lazarus thread?

Pregnant woman who rammed cyclist off the road jailed for 3 years

https://www.theguardian.com/law/2017/oct/14/drivers-who-kill-may-now-face-life-sentence

This sounds like good news.

It is good, but they need to actually enforce the law first

You could have put it in the 'Rider down' thread--but that was hard to find given that the article neither mentions the street where nor the date when it happened.

https://www.lfgss.com/conversations/282158/

I just (re-)posted it there before remembering that it was from May.

What do you mean by that? Genuine question.

The main thing that I have found deeply awful in cyclist killed by car cases recently has been the sentencing, not the verdicts so much.

I think he may mean that people are likely to get careless driving sentence than dangerous driving when they killed someone in court.

I always feel that people are well aware the chance of them getting caught when driving dangerously are minuscule, so they happily drive however they like and take risks.

Stricter sentencing is good, but unless more people start getting nicked for bad driving and the road laws are enforced more, then it's unlikely to deter people who already practice bad habits.

Hopefully this change will stop the stupid "oh, but I'll lose my livelihood" defence rubbish that people come out with.

Tory MP Heidi Allen, who has been pushing this through, seems quite reasonable, hard working and, well, nice.

For a Tory, I mean.

As I understand it nobody has ever been given the current maximum of 14 years, so in some respects what’s the point. Perhaps they would have been better served increasing the minimum term.

probably a better thread somewhere but I can't find it.

Glad this fucker has gone to prison but it feels like he should have got longer

A professional driver who was filmed drinking champagne, rolling a cigarette with both hands and using a handheld mobile phone has been sentenced to 8 months in jail and banned from driving for 32 months.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-york-north-yorkshire-60302411

another example where the sentencing was clearly too lenient.

Declan Webster lost control of his Toyota Corolla after racing through the streets of Chesterfield with two other drivers – topping speeds of 84mph. The trio - including brothers Michael and Robert Bower - had spent several hours in a beer garden before driving off in their vehicles and racing each other in Brimington Road North in August 2020.

Sentenced to 16 months in prison.

https://twitter.com/DerbysPolice/status/1491743929133408261

Charlie Allison got 18 months - no substance abuse and was at 18 mph - the judges must all be car abusers

They went sniffing round his internet history to see he'd watched stunt cycling. Like they do with killer drivers who watched Top Gear.

A driver who knocked a child off his bike and then drove off, has received a suspended sentence of 6 months in jail and a 12 month driving ban.

https://twitter.com/allpartycycling/status/1495093861743579145?t=HYRqNe29uhxAS-5m-lYtIQ&s=19